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KingBroly

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by KingBroly » 01.18.11 12:59pm
I've thought about this for quite a while in an effort to explain what's going on in Other M and what will happen in Metroid 5. I can't really figure out how to bring it all together in a nice cohesive package yet. When I do I'll post it/link to it/etc. But for now I thought I'd get some of the bigger questions/answers out of the way in an abridged version of it. This does get into some touchy subjects later on that might offend people, but trust me when I say I think it's the correct answer. Nintendo might try to hunt me down but it's a risk I'm willing to take.
Adam is evil There are several conclusions to leave me to believe that Adam is evil. The way in which we see him when Samus talks about him, the way he treats her, and how he's supposedly the head of this evil conspiracy. He comes off as a generic Military dick. Someone who would blow up a planet and kill billions if given the chance to promote himself. When he shoots Samus then the baby Metroid in Sector Zero we don't get an answer as to why we shot her, then we get the traditional 'this is my evil plan and there's nothing you can do about it spiel' to Samus. While she asks if he is the leader, he lies and says his report was co-opted (how would he know for certain that it was instead of going 'they must have co-opted it?) by someone for all we know could be Adam. In addition to this, we don't see him or Sector Zero go up in smoke. Afterwards, the General shows up to find Samus, Madeline and MB exactly where Adam tells her to go. Funny coincidence, huh? Also, it would explain Adam's reaction to seeing Ridley since no one knew Little Birdy was Ridley.
Who is the deleter? To put it simply, everyone. They're all there to kill everyone and everything aboard the ship. Samus helps clear out some of the heavier fodder, Ridley included. Once the GF finds Ridley is still alive, they clearly take interest in his potential as a bioweapon. However, this means that Adam is leading this group of killing, and in an effort to clean his tracks, he has KG take them out while James takes care of facility elimination. We supposedly see KG killed off-screen but since we don't see him die on-screen we can't confirm his death or not. Since we don't know what happened to Adam after he got shot, we can assume that KG shot Adam, probably to talk about Sector Zero not having Unfreezable Metroids in them, after all he went to the Living Quarters, which is the closest route to Sector Zero. It would also explain why we're forced to follow James to Sector 1. The doors are closed except for that one and we know Adam is still alive because of this. If he was good, these doors would all be locked so James could be apprehended. And as Samus tells us, the deleter just wants the Metroids in Sector Zero. Since we don't see it go up in smoke, there's only real one conclusion here: Adam's the head of this deleter corps. and he got his Metroids, just like she said. Who locks the door? I'd guess KG, but that's only because he was the only one would could've shot Adam at that point.
Anthony I purposefully left him out of that discussion for his own. Most likely Adam gave Anthony the order to kill Samus, but Anthony in a moment of hesitation said no, and almost afterwards in a bit of timing trickery we see Ridley appear in the background. Anthony comes off as the person who knows Samus the best in this game somehow. He asks her about her feelings, Adam, the past. The line asking about what Sector 1 reminds her of has always been suspicious as he says because it looks like the GF training grounds. But as Samus says later on the bottle ship is a nightmare of Zebes. How would he know what Zebes looks like? In addition to this, he knows about her power, and every time Samus mentions Adam in a good light, we see the joking nature of Anthony. It makes me wonder if Samus is a racist or not. Finally, when Anthony protects her from Ridley we see him do an awesome backflip to protect her, and he eventually comes back to life. How can someone like him do a backflip that was similar to Samus' moments later? We see Anthony come back to life, and we're seemingly shown how, but it seems a bit off if you ask me.
Why did Samus leave the GF? This one took me the longest to figure out and stalled me for quite a while but again it comes down to timing and wording. She left "As a result of a certain incident" not because of it. Meaning something happened after it and that's why she bolted. What could've caused this. In a bit of symbolism the game throws at us at the final section of the game is where I believe the answer lies. Madeline killing MB is symbolic for one thing: Abortion. Now I know this is a touchy subject, but I ask that you continue to read on. Samus acts exactly the way she does in Sector Zero like she did during the incident. I've always wondered why, well now I know. When Samus was a rebellious teen against Adam, we're shown a picture of Ian, Samus and Adam in the background. It seems rather odd for a picture to show rebellion, doesn't it? Well, let me continue. Rebellious teens act out in 3 generalized ways: Drink alcohol, do drugs and lastly but most importantly, have sex. You see, at the beginning of the game Samus harps on the death of the baby Metroid that saved her. We get the indication that it reminds her of something and we say it's a lost child. I've always thought it was something else but since she emphasizes it SO BLOODY MUCH the simplest answer is true here. She does see it as a lost child. But not just any lost child...her lost child.
When the picture after the incident goes up in flames, symbolically saying a family was torn apart here, I'm saying that the family was of Ian and Samus, Adam excluded. So yeah, I'm basically saying that Samus got pregnant and before the incident had an abortion herself. Now that still doesn't quite explain why she left, so let me continue. Afterwards I believe Adam tried to console Samus over the loss and told her she'll have the child to remember Ian by. This is why she's acting the way she does at Sector Zero, because she recently lost a child, the baby. We see the same reaction from Madeline after killing MB as well. I believe she told Adam about the child too because she tells him everything and believes everything she tells her. I don't think Adam saved those people because it was 300 to 1 or something. I believe it was 2 to 1, or 1 to 1. Basically, Adam ditched Ian to save Samus' child because it was the same as her, a great warrior. Only this one could be molded into something the Federation could use without fear of rebelling. I don't think Adam took too kindly to this news, and this is why she left. Either he yelled at her or, as Mental and Sylux's article pointed out she was abused. So yes, Sakamoto's plan was to correct the issue this way with Samus, as much as it pains me to say it. But fear not, all hope is not lost and certainly isn't the only issue he's trying to correct.
Control Samus is clearly someone of great importance to the GF because of her power. I believe they sought to control this power. Once they found out about a potential weakness and her trying to rid herself of it, they stepped in. Here is where I believe did a few things. First, suppress some of her memories about most of her past, except for how her parents died and where she grew up. The Chozo, Old Bird, Metroids, Mother Brain were all gone. Second, overwrite the identity of her father figure, Old Bird with Adam. In the manga she rebels against Old Bird, acting very kid like in nature towards him only because she knows how much he cares. Here, Adam doesn't put up with her shit. Finally, and most importantly, a trigger was word was instilled in order to control her. In Fusion when she hears "Lady" her eyes light up like a Christmas tree. When we hear it here in Sector Zero, we don't see her eyes, almost as if they're being hidden. However, as we all know Samus doesn't like the word lady so while gets the briefing, she gives a thumbs down anyway. While she internally likes it, she shows outwardly that she doesn't, so while she's being controlled, she still has some semblance of free will. I doubt Adam asked her about it, and he definitely doesn't like that he doesn't have full control. It goes back to her lost child, it was something the GF wanted to completely control. But at the end of the game she gives a thumbs down. So badly enough, that means she might be relinquishing her free will towards Adam, something very dangerous indeed. But yes, Samus doesn't remember her past life with the Chozo. While we get a memory of it on Zebes in Zero Mission, I doubt she fully comprehends what it means.
So when Samus follows the authorizations beyond baffling in Other M, it's simply that she's under his control from the word lady. When is it mentioned, I don't know. My guess would be the briefing, so that she's still under his control per say, was still able to break away from it because of the result of the incident. When she comes back, like a battered housewife, she does fall under his control again. That's why we see him angry at her, but her turns a bright eye when he finds out she's under his spell again. So how will at all end?
Surpassing the Father If there are a few themes going on in Other M and Fusion and potentially 5, it's this: It's about an evolution of society in terms of women and their importance in it. Women obeying men in Other M, women working with men in Fusion and women surpassing men in 5. At the same time, it's an evolution of game design and game storytelling as well I think. From archaic to clean. No control to perfect control. Bad dialog and acting to good. Linearity to non-linearity. So how will it happen exactly? I don't quite know, but if I had to guess we'll find out that everything I've said here is true. Lady is a trigger word for Samus. When Samus tries to fight back against Adam, he'll use it, and she'll give a thumbs up because she's surrendered that will of hers. My guess is that Adam might try and hit her but before it happens her true father figure will reveal himself.
Revelation I believe that Old Bird has been watching Samus this whole time. Watching her grow, come to know things, see where she stands. But seeing that act and possibly that she doesn't remember him will force him to act. So where is Old Bird? Well, he's larger than life, he acts cool under pressure, has a lot of style and knows how to treat a lady. That's right, Anthony Higgs is Old Bird. My guess is he'll grab Adam's arm and say 'don't touch my daughter.' After this, I expect Old Bird either in dying or while Adam is incapacitated will unlock her mind essentially (Chozo Mind Tricks), unlocking her past to her, as well as who she is, where she comes from and what inner strength she has. So what happens after this? Well, Samus will take Adam down not in her power suit but in her Zero Suit as an ultimate "You Go Girl" moment of women surpassing their male counterparts, or as how I think the story will go.
The End? In the end, Old Bird will compliment her on her work and tell her she's done everything on her own. But Samus will say that she didn't, instead that she fought for someone else. Not for Adam, but for the child she gave up. She left over something personal, and that's why she went on to prevent the loss of life, because she took a life. There's probably not a day that goes on her life that she doesn't regret doing that. So while people say the baby ruined Metroid, the baby actually saved Metroid because it gave her the chance to rid herself of Adam. Now I don't think Samus will kill Adam, but will instead do the awesome Batman Begins thing of saying 'I won't kill you Adam, but I won't save you' and start the self-destruction timer. Like Wind Waker, I suspect Anthony will keep Adam down and will go out in a blaze of glory so Adam can never haunt her again. We'll see him go out in a blaze of glory. At the same time, I wonder what lies ahead for Samus. The same old, same old? Or will she continue to be an outlaw, one woman against the Galaxy? Only time will tell I guess.
Even the strongest of people can have their faith broken. Mine has.
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by AuroraUnitComplex » 01.18.11 1:21pm
KingBroly wrote:Since we don't see it go up in smoke, there's only real one conclusion here: Adam's the head of this deleter corps. […] Most likely Adam gave Anthony the order to kill Samus Official in-game "Story" wrote:Adam was not the ringleader of the plot.
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KingBroly

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by KingBroly » 01.18.11 1:23pm
You believe Adam why exactly? Also, at every turn the game is trying to tell us Adam isn't a good guy. Red flags are everywhere. Samus: My best friend (Shown:  ) Plus, Sakamoto has opened Pandora's Box here. He can't really stop.
Even the strongest of people can have their faith broken. Mine has.
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by Animerican_Redeemed » 01.18.11 2:44pm
KingBroly wrote:This does get into some touchy subjects later on that might offend people, but trust me when I say I think it's the correct answer. Nintendo might try to hunt me down but it's a risk I'm willing to take.
Quite frankly, I very much doubt Nintendo could have a real damn about a fan's plot-related conspiracy theory in relation to Metroid: Other M... what's with the language as if Nintendo and Sakamoto are some kind of Big Brother? Really, there is no risk whatsoever to giving some theory, which can only draw the ire of fans on this board and nothing more. KingBroly wrote:There are several conclusions to leave me to believe that Adam is evil. The way in which we see him when Samus talks about him, the way he treats her, and how he's supposedly the head of this evil conspiracy. He comes off as a generic Military dick. Someone who would blow up a planet and kill billions if given the chance to promote himself.
Hasn't it occurred to you that some of the super-duper-mega-happy-fun-time stuff was intentionally left out to build up a sense that, pre-Sector Zero scene, maybe "ZOMG Adam is the Deleter?" And after the Sector Zero scene, there isn't much point focusing a bunch on Adam... Samus herself said she wasn't going to mourn his loss while the mission was at hand. And considering that the game is told almost exclusively from her perspective, that can translate into no more Adam-related flashbacks. But even with that build-up of Adam in a less-than-ultra-positive-light, I doubt most of us ever thought of "someone who would blow up a planet and kill billions if given the chance to promote himself" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ KingBroly wrote:When he shoots Samus then the baby Metroid in Sector Zero we don't get an answer as to why we shot her, then we get the traditional 'this is my evil plan and there's nothing you can do about it spiel' to Samus.
Didn't MaiAriSquee and I discuss in the earlier thread that it was heavily implied why Adam did what he did? I would imagine that most everyone understood the reasoning, once they followed the story carefully enough. Here's what was said ealier to the "issue", in case you need reminding... MaiAriSquee wrote:Adam knew there were unfreezable metroids in Sector Zero that Samus couldn't defeat. Therefore, Sector Zero needed to be detached and self destructed. (Surely, he could've done it remotely from someplace, but Sakamoto wanted a dramatic sacrifice, so we have to ignore this gaff.) Everyone else on the ship is MIA but Adam and Samus, and Adam knows that Samus is not going to let him do the sacrificing, so he decides not to give her a choice by incapacitating her. (Obviously he knew it wouldn't be enough to kill her, he wouldn't fire otherwise.) "But he put in her in so much pain!" Some pain now is better than total annihilation later. It's tough love.
and Me wrote:with Samus temporarily incapacitated, she can't follow after him as he does what he feels to be not only his duty, but the one thing that he at least could accomplish: the destruction of Sector Zero. As he told her, "I wish I could battle Ridley, but I can't. Unlike you, I'm no galactic savior. I'm merely human. But I can save you."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ KingBroly wrote: While she asks if he is the leader, he lies and says his report was co-opted (how would he know for certain that it was instead of going 'they must have co-opted it?) by someone for all we know could be Adam.
His saying that it "was co-opted" rather than "must have co-opted it" could've just been a sign of stronger conviction on his part that it was co-opted. Maybe as he was in the communications room, he was able to piece together what went on on the Bottleship, contrary to his recommendations. Or maybe he knew before arriving on the Bottleship about the threat, and therefore wanted to see to it that it was stopped. In any case, I think you're digging a little too deep for an ulterior motive in one plainly-stated line of dialogue. And his "lying" is because of what Melissa said, right? Don't you think that she could've said that he authorized the Metroid production program just to throw off Samus and confuse her? Especially since, you know, she had most of the ship's staff killed and was putting the Bottleship on a course headed for the Galactic Federation? KingBroly wrote: In addition to this, we don't see him or Sector Zero go up in smoke. Well there was a muffled boom in the background, wasn't there? A boom that was heard after the sector detached? (and the muffled boom makes sense to, considering not only the hard walls but also the distance that the Sector would have to be from the Bottleship before exploding.) The exclusion of a deliberate explosion scene might've been to emphasize what Samus was feeling at the time KingBroly wrote:Afterwards, the General shows up to find Samus, Madeline and MB exactly where Adam tells her to go. Funny coincidence, huh? Also, it would explain Adam's reaction to seeing Ridley since no one knew Little Birdy was Ridley.
It's also very possible that there was still an active signal that called others to the Bottleship. Now yes, that little bit is a bit of a plot hole, but that kind of plot element where a great authority suddenly shows up unexpectedly is found in a whole bunch of movies and games. And as for Adam's reaction... maybe it's that, despite his exclamation of surprise, he had to remain calm as the C.O.? Plus, he doesn't have an explained personal history with Ridley... EDIT: It's kinda funny.... when I first responded to this, I really only paid close attention to the first premise regarding "Adam being evil," because as you can see in my response, I thought there was already so much wrong with it. And by denouncing that first premise, it didn't seem like the others could hold up, since all that followed seem to rely on that premise of "Adam's evil." Besides, even if I wanted to respond to more of your individual points, I wouldn't have had time, as I had a 1:30 class to go to.
But taking a closer look at all that followed in your theory... wow. As Samus' disembodied head said below, try enjoying life some, instead of getting so bent out of shape in trying to make mountains out of molehills. It may have not been the Greatest Video Game Story Ever Told, but that doesn't mean you need to keep digging into stone, trying to rationalize the story in a way you feel is better than the story Sakamoto actually told. I mean, that's enough convoluted theorizing to even make Hideo Kojima furiously blush!
"Man is fond of counting his troubles, but he does not count his joys. If he counted them up as he ought to, he would see that every lot has enough happiness provided for it." ~Fyodor Dostoevsky
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by theArchsage » 01.18.11 3:09pm
KingBroly, I've been a long time reader and usually love most of the things that you say or come up with... but that is the stupidest most retarded thing I've ever heard come from you (of course, I know it's not you who wants this, don't get me wrong). I mean, that would be a TERRIBLE idea. If this is true, and I'm sure and I hope that it's not, then Metroid has fallen completely into an entertainment abomination in regards to its past glory.
Seriously, a game about the "rise of women" and maternity (and consequentially, abortion?) is not Metroid. It's a gross abomination of the game we've all, and many others, come to know and love. I can agree that Adam must be evil and am highly suspicious of Anthony's character as well, but I refuse to accept that overall meaning of the Sakamoto trilogy (Other M, Fusion, maybe Metroid 5). Someone at Nintendo must be clearly insane if that's where they are planning on taking the franchise.
Jeez, I just want to go back to the days when Samus was a badass, Metroid was about "ultimate warrior", the G-Feds were a questionable organization and the Space Pirates were the blatant evil technologically advanced organization that would do anything and when the Chozo were all mysteriously 'gone' but their works are integral to some of the most important events of current times. Shoot, back in the days when Samus was "a girl?!?!".
Now the games are out to prove female superiority, you say? Hell, I thought Metroid 1 taught us (at least the few who could really handle the game) that men and women, though different, were equal. It didn't matter that Samus was male/female, but it was a pleasant surprise and shocker that she was female. Now your saying it's about evolution of women in society? Who the hell wants Metroid to be like that?
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by MaiAriSquee » 01.18.11 3:17pm
Hey, guys, I was playing around on my computer when my Wii turned on by itself and that cool blue light started flashing a lot! My computer is getting really fuzzy and- BZZZZZZT
...Broly.... Brolyyyy.... Broly! ...it's okay, now. You can let go. The game was imperfect- we all know this... ...now it is time to move on..! It is time... to LIVE!BZZZZZZT - I don't really know why- OH. It's okay now. And the Wii's off again. Someone must've sat on the Wii-mote. Anyway, you're sounding really weird right now, KingBroly. Just an FYI.
 Satch wrote:What does she think Metroid is? A porno? Does she know it's Alien with Crayola crayons?
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by Infinity's End » 01.18.11 3:59pm
the sheer lunacy of your post makes this thread teeter on the edge of going absolute zero, Broly. Watch it.
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by KingBroly » 01.18.11 5:02pm
I never expected anyone to believe me anyway. I'm just tired of looking of at this game. If it's a standalone product with no bearing on any other Metroid game in the series, then it's the worst thing ever conceived by anyone. However, since Other M has ties to Metroid II and Super and Fusion that is why I did what I did. I looked at it as an overall arc. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's just out there, I admit that. I'm not even saying it's a good idea, either. I don't even like the prospect of where it's going, but we want answers. Why it was made, why it got out the door, why he may or may not have intentionally done what he did. To take Samus from one point and try to take her back to that point is foolish one in my opinion, and unobtainable. However, he's going to try by ending the mystery. Because it's still there, bigger than ever now.
Let me say one more thing: Every Metroid game's final boss has been of female origin (Mother Brain, Queen Metroid, SA-X, Dark Samus). It'd be fitting I think where a man is the final boss for one game.
Heck, they could come out and say Other M isn't canon tomorrow and I'd still feel the same way about it.
Even the strongest of people can have their faith broken. Mine has.
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by theArchsage » 01.18.11 5:56pm
I think the reason for Other M is simple. Sakamoto really wanted to share his Samus, his Metroid. But he was too focused on himself then how he was focused on us, the consumers (those who actually matter -- we pay for, we FUND Metroid with our own hard-earned cash). He's too lost in himself than he is in making entertainment for consumers.
That's why everything from the Primes seem to be ignored. That's why it seems that Samus is being forcibly defined in Other m. That's why there isn't any proper explanation of what the hell is going on. It's all in Sakamoto's head.
The real tragedy of this isn't that Other M became a 'bad' game as for as presentation is involved. The series can endure a bad game. The real tragedy of this is that Sakamoto was UNABLE to connect with consumers. That's the real problem. If a developer can't make games for consumers, then that developer is hazardous to the company... that developer becomes useless.
And from interviews with Retro during the making of the Primes, Sakamoto seemed to have gotten the idea of Samus that the consumers had. But now? I think he still kind of has the same idea, but he has proved incapable of displaying it in a game. He needs to be taken away from Metroid, or rather, he needs to be taken away from Samus.
Metroid, now, needs a Metroid Prime... it needs a game that doesn't focus on Samus or story, but expounds on the Metroid Universe and solidifies the constant that defines something as a Metroid game. It doesn't have to be 1st person.
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by KingBroly » 01.18.11 7:14pm
It's character building. A deconstruction followed by building them back up again in the creators' image. That's kinda why Team Ninja was perfect for this since not a lot of people would accept a depiction of Samus from Team Ninja despite them not working on the story at all. But I don't think Team Ninja's working on the next one. I think it'll be from a company that hasn't made a game. But they might be a bit familiar to a lot of us.
If you go along with what I'm saying (mental manipulation and mind control with a payoff coming in Metroid 5) you can see what he's doing. The authorization makes us question Samus and in turn Adam at the lunacy to which these play out. At the beginning of the game we become highly suspicious because she turns off her bombs and missiles. From the start Sakamoto is slowly but surely pulling us away from Samus so he can start building up her character (In Fusion she says one life ends and another begins). If he can successfully explain the manipulation part you forgive the authorizations and why she looks at Adam the way she does. The Ridley scene and her being whiny however are two important questions that I am unsure of how he'll answer. It's mainly about de-feminizing a lot of things about Samus in Other M. If they can do that well, we'll connect with Samus again.
A lot of people have said they want to play as Post-Adam Samus because that Samus seems awesome. Cool, beautiful, assertive, etc. We don't get a lot of it, which is the disappointing part. What I'm saying is that Samus (Post-Adam) is the one we've been playing with all along (except Other M), because of the control. She isn't gaining strength from Adam, she's gaining strength from him being gone. She just thinks she is because of the circumstances.
Even the strongest of people can have their faith broken. Mine has.
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by Troid » 01.18.11 8:08pm
Infinity's End wrote:the sheer lunacy of your post makes this thread teeter on the edge of going absolute zero, Broly. Wow.
I read KB's post and was fully intending to call him crazy, but threatening to lock the thread? What on earth for; KingBroly truly scared you with his 'lunacy?' Does he need to put a "Don't like, don't read" disclaimer in the title?
Watch it. Wow.
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I'd love for Adam to turn out evil, but I can't see it happening for one major reason: the game tries (and, really, fails miserably) to make you think he is, and then reveals he had reasons for doing the suspicious things (not talking to Samus after his brush with James, shooting her, writing the Metroid report) and he is actually a hero.
Unless you think that the transparent deception AND Adam's actual revealed position as a good guy are all packaged together as a smokescreen to obscure the fact that he is evil. And to do that, I have to say, would require some real writing guts and/or insanity.
Just going back on the determination "Adam is good" after the game tried to convince you "Adam is evil" would be crazy, but it's made even crazier by the fact that it was more, "Hey look! Adam is soooo totally evil! Look at him doing all these shady things! Ooh! Ominous camera angles!" i.e. a really, really obvious attempt to get you to believe that.
KingBroly wrote:her lost child etc. You're quite insane, by the way. It makes for great discussion though.
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by Troid » 01.18.11 8:16pm
He never said Adam was abusive.
You don't really get Sakamoto if you think he was using the baby as a reminder of something. In his imagination, all women (included lone wolf career bounty hunters) have insuppressible and all-consuming maternal instincts. Sakamoto imagines that since Samus is a woman who has never had children of her own, the baby automatically registers to her like her own child and therefore she has all these overly powerful feelings about it.
As Broly often says about lack of context, some kind of preexisting explanation of, say, Samus's relationship with her mother and how that loss affected her (or a the very damn least, explained in Other M) could provide [b]maybe[/i] some insight into this whole stupid baby mess, but no.
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by Troid » 01.18.11 8:22pm
Nope. It's obvious from the way he wrote OM.
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by KingBroly » 01.18.11 9:45pm
Troid wrote:He never said Adam was abusive.
You don't really get Sakamoto if you think he was using the baby as a reminder of something. In his imagination, all women (included lone wolf career bounty hunters) have insuppressible and all-consuming maternal instincts. Sakamoto imagines that since Samus is a woman who has never had children of her own, the baby automatically registers to her like her own child and therefore she has all these overly powerful feelings about it.
As Broly often says about lack of context, some kind of preexisting explanation of, say, Samus's relationship with her mother and how that loss affected her (or a the very damn least, explained in Other M) could provide [b]maybe[/i] some insight into this whole stupid baby mess, but no.
I can provide some insight on it, but like I said it was abridged so I decided to keep things to a minimum. I could go on and on about specific points and how suspicious they are. Samus knows her parents died when she was a child. However, it is my claim that this mental manipulation that I talked about removed/suppressed that specific memory. Basically since Adam is her closest friend she tells him everything and believes everything he says. This includes that her parents died when she was a child and why she says she has a chip on her shoulder, having something to prove and they were laughing at her because she was a woman. In addition to this, I believe that Anthony will tell her in Metroid 5 that they were laughing with her at the thumbs down because they thought it was funny as hell, or they just thought she was an idiot. As for the baby, it's a few things that led me to what I presented in brief: The harping on the baby (Sakamoto has said it does have a meaning), the picture and burning of said picture, why Samus says she suddenly became concerned with his opinion again when talking about bringing life into this cruel universe. They all lead me to believe that she made a choice that Adam wasn't against and she bolted because of it. Oh, and thanks for the gif Troid. I'm going to cross-post it here because it supports my KG isn't dead argument:  Where'd he go?
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Even the strongest of people can have their faith broken. Mine has.
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MaiAriSquee

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by MaiAriSquee » 01.18.11 9:47pm
I really don't understand why people have such a problem with Samus caring for the hatchling. Before I actually played the game I expected her to be talking about it all the time. She wasn't.  [EDIT: Okay okay, I had forgotten about the beginning and how she goes on and on about it unnecessarily. Meaculpaaaa-]
I know I cared for it when I played II and Super. (II's final sequence is one of my favorite moments in gaming.) King Broly wrote:I'm going to cross-post it here because it supports my KG isn't dead argument.
You are delusional.
 Satch wrote:What does she think Metroid is? A porno? Does she know it's Alien with Crayola crayons?
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