Metroid: Other M Art Gallery Translation Thread *Spoilers*

[KingBroly]

What I mean is the game's really lacking in the logic department and until someone asks him about certain things and what they're supposed to mean and why people are going to continue to hate on him and question his sanity. I'm also concerned about the vagueness of everything and why certain things, particularly Adam's fiery death is missing from the game.

I beat Castlevania: Lords of Shadow on Knight or Paladin (whatever Hard mode was) and yeah, I really hated that ending. However, I didn't really think that was obviously bad or ridiculous that would not make sense in any matter like I did with Other M. I'm of course referring to Bombs and Missiles here, because it really is the only thing you need to make sense of in order for everything else to make sense.

If you can't explain that then I doubt it'll stay on as canon because it's really the only thing no one can make sense of in terms of the game's context; it's completely out of the blue. Everything else from Ridley, to the orders, to her motives/beliefs, etc. CAN be rationalized in your mind somehow with various answers. That one however really goes beyond the game.

[doc O. Mire]

What I mean is the game's really lacking in the logic department and until someone asks him about certain things and what they're supposed to mean and why people are going to continue to hate on him and question his sanity. I'm also concerned about the vagueness of everything and why certain things, particularly Adam's fiery death is missing from the game.

I beat Castlevania: Lords of Shadow on Knight or Paladin (whatever Hard mode was) and yeah, I really hated that ending. However, I didn't really think that was obviously bad or ridiculous that would not make sense in any matter like I did with Other M. I'm of course referring to Bombs and Missiles here, because it really is the only thing you need to make sense of in order for everything else to make sense.

If you can't explain that then I doubt it'll stay on as canon because it's really the only thing no one can make sense of in terms of the game's context; it's completely out of the blue. Everything else from Ridley, to the orders, to her motives/beliefs, etc. CAN be rationalized in your mind somehow with various answers. That one however really goes beyond the game.

I was barely following this discussion as it was, but the last half of your post made me lose any sense of knowing what the heck is going on

[FacelessGriffin]

I was barely following this discussion as it was, but the last half of your post made me lose any sense of knowing what the heck is going on

That's KingBroly to ya.

[Zeroº]

Ah, KB, this place gets so... normal... when you're not around.

Other M seems to have been built specifically to tell a story. That means that Other M is more canon than any other Metroid game. Dun-dun-duuuuuuuuuuuuun. Seriously. Well, Fusion has just about the same amount of story, so it's canonicity is likely on par with Other M's. That means that Zero Mission, RoS, and Super will have a lesser amount of canonicity until they are remade with a thrown-in-your-face-yelled-in-your-ear story. Will their new stories make sense? Dunno. Will you like them? That's subjective. Will it happen? Prolly not, but you never know.

I await our story-laden remakes. I want to see Samus stop and ponder the morality of the mission she accepted before killing every, single Metroid in Metroid: Return to Return of Samus. I can't wait until Samus stops to mourn the death of Kraid and goes into a 15-minute flashback about how this was the first time she had ever encountered him, except for that last time on her first mission to Zebes in Super Duper Metroid: Metroid III Again.

[KingBroly]

Well...you don't really need a remake of Metroid II unless it had something to do with the post-game, because that scene is remade in Other M. I still don't get why Sakamoto said it was sign of Samus still being immature. The best I can figure is that it's a sign of her reckless nature, but that really would fit within the context of the series:

- Zero Mission Post-Game caused by Samus stripping
- Dark Samus being born at the end of Prime because Samus thought Metroid Prime blowing up looked pretty
- Primes 2 and 3 in general because of Dark Samus
- Super Metroid caused by her decision to save the last Metroid
- Other M caused by her decision to not pay $3.50 for dry cleaning on her suit
- Fusion caused by her decision not to buy Space Brakes

It all fits. But I caution that it's speculation once again.

What I'm trying to say is that this sequence:
- Samus de-activates her bombs and missiles because Adam didn't authorize them
- Adam authorizes missile use
- Adam immediately asks afterwards to follow his command

Needs some explaining. Everything else, from Ridley, to the Last Metroid, to the Authorization System, to Samus' motives/beliefs, to infinity can be rationalized by people in the context of the story itself. That sequence however, can't. I can't explain how Adam would know she'd follow his command without hesitation, nor can I explain why she turned them off in the first place given the strict wording of it. Plus, post-game it says "You can now use Power Bombs" instead of "Power Bombs are now authorized."

[Zeroº]

- Zero Mission Post-Game caused by Samus stripping

I'll be honest when I say that I've had a long, tiring day, thus I only skimmed the above post for interesting bits. The above quote was clearly the most interesting bit. If it was a cleaner, prettier statement, I might've considered sigging it. Such a shame...

My wearied mind works in predictable ways...

[KingBroly]

How about "Zero Mission's Post Game was caused by Samus Stripping"?

Anyways...they could always say that Other M/Fusion/5 was a Dream Sequence Arc, and make it this metaphor that Samus has been dead since Super Metroid and her life has been in a state of limbo since then. Then you could say everyone in the arc from Adam to Anthony were different personalities of her own-subconscious.

[fox mulder]

Metception much?

I just think you're looking into it a tad bit too much.

[KingBroly]

It's something that I've thought about before. Nintendo kinda used similar concepts with Mario Galaxy 1 where Mario basically destroys the entire universe, forcing a complete rebirth of the entire universe. Same goes with Majora's Mask where Link is reliving the same 3 days over and over again, when in reality a long time has passed in the main universe.

Basically here, Samus would kill herself in her dreams only to wake up at the ending of Super Metroid.

I've also thought of Other M being a culmination of Purgatory for Samus:
- Samus waking up in Heaven (An all white Hospital room)
- Going to Hell and encountering Ridley
- Samus going to Death's Door, where Adam saves her

The whole idea of Other M not making sense in the slightest, her entire life flashing before her eyes in a slight recreation of that seems plausible, but that's just my way of thinking. It would also explain all of those time skips the game has. In addition, the game was Sakamoto's "Dream Game" and Samus says her past is "A Dream" and that the Bottle Ship became a "Nightmare Replica" of Zebes. But I'm clearly looking into THAT part too much.

[HYRUL3]

King Broly. More like King of making Mountains out of Mole Hills.

Seriously, sometimes an entry in a series just kind of sucks. Thats ok. Its normal. It leads to improvement. But no, lets sweep it under the rug and explain it away with a dream.

[Apothem]

- Zero Mission Post-Game caused by Samus stripping

I'll be honest when I say that I've had a long, tiring day, thus I only skimmed the above post for interesting bits. The above quote was clearly the most interesting bit. If it was a cleaner, prettier statement, I might've considered sigging it. Such a shame...

My wearied mind works in predictable ways...

How 'bout: ???

- Zero Mission Post-Game caused by Samus's wardrobe malfunction.

[HYRUL3]

Yeah, I don't think she shed her suit because she felt like risking her life. Pretty sure it was damaged.

[KingBroly]

King Broly. More like King of making Mountains out of Mole Hills.

Seriously, sometimes an entry in a series just kind of sucks. Thats ok. Its normal. It leads to improvement. But no, lets sweep it under the rug and explain it away with a dream.

If it was a dream, the whole arc has to be a dream. You can't have one be a dream without the other(s). That's what I'm saying, and if you want to say it's a dream, you have to draw analogies for it to be a dream, whether it be purgatory, time skips that aren't explained, etc. A lot of people want them to say it was a dream, but they keep forgetting that Metroid Fusion is still out there, hanging at the end of the series. It's been the problem since it came out. Without Fusion, we wouldn't have Other M. The arc still hasn't been resolved, plain and simple. How does he plan to resolve it? I don't really know, but I have 2 guesses, and neither are pretty.

[HYRUL3]

if you want to say it's a dream

But I don't. Because that's one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever heard in regards to Metroid. Come back to reality, and for the love of god stop repeating the same things over and over again. "How will he end the arc? How will he end the arc? Everyone wants to know, how is he going to do it?" Who knows, but yeah, we get it, we're all on the edge of our seats in anticipation of Samus fighting for her rights to be a woman in male-dominated space.

[KingBroly]

Am I arguing the stupidity of it? No. You take 2 steps forwards with what I say when I'm not going to argue them that way. But he cannot, under any circumstances, say he did the Lord's work and all is right in the Metroid universe, because it's not. You sweep the arc under the rug, it's lazy and effectively doom the series with the knowledge that something was left undone because a couple of people pissed their pants about the whole thing. You say it's a dream, it's lazy. You say 1 of a number of people are the villain, you piss people off. What DO YOU want?

And to be honest, I don't think you know given what Other M and Fusion present to you.