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by HYRUL3 » 07.12.11 6:45pm
What DO YOU want?
A story that moves the series forward. A story that's not shitty. A story that isn't juvenile in its writing. A story that pays attention to what has come before it and doesn't piss off a whole fanbase. I don't think the next game needs to fall back on Other M as much as you think it does. That's why chronologically there's this whole game in between the two.
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by KingBroly » 07.12.11 7:11pm
Well, I see it going one of two ways and it really just depends on who's the head of the corrupt group, and to be honest, it can really only go one of two ways with that in my opinion. At least in order to keep things interesting and compelling.
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by HYRUL3 » 07.13.11 5:11pm
You would make it Adam, wouldn't you.
Because they can't just introduce a cool new character, since they have the course of several hours to weave a narrative.
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by KingBroly » 07.14.11 9:41pm
HYRUL3 wrote:You would make it Adam, wouldn't you.
Because they can't just introduce a cool new character, since they have the course of several hours to weave a narrative.
Other M's narrative wasn't 8 hours like MGS4's or FFXIII's you know. Other M's narrative was roughly 90 minutes, and that was mostly cryptic messages and imagery. And at this point, Adam wouldn't make a better villain. Why? A - A Metroid 5 has to diffuse the Adam-Samus relationship. It has to calm people down from their furious anger towards Other M. Having Adam be evil would just make people even angrier. I think that's something even you could agree on. B - Adam's too obvious. Other M's narrative about motherhood is too obvious as well, but it does a good job of distracting people from what's really going on, since most people aren't using logic to think of scenarios of how to end the arc. They're acting in the now and not two steps down the line. C - There is already a character in Other M's narrative that you could pin the entire thing on. It'd be shocking, and you could make it compelling and interesting. At the same time it'd make you go 'that makes a hell of a lot of sense.' And it's actually very trivial in terms of what question(s) needs to be asked in order to do so. Those questions are: #1 - Who is the Other M? #2 - Who knew where the engines were? 2 answers 1 and 1 answers 2.
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by HYRUL3 » 07.14.11 9:56pm
I wasn't speaking specifically of Other M. I meant that Metroid 5 could be a long game with short story segments that introduce the mastermind and move the story along. Because the villain doesn't always have to be someone we've already met/is close to us.
Haven't played Other M since August, who are you thinking of?
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by KingBroly » 07.14.11 10:25pm
The person who turned the engines off, naturally.
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by HYRUL3 » 07.14.11 11:54pm
Haven't played Other M since August
Let's try this again, since I didn't make myself clear enough last time... Since I HAVEN'T PLAYED OTHER M SINCE AUGUST AND CAN'T REMEMBER WHO TURNED OFF THE ENGINES... who are you thinking of.
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by KingBroly » 07.15.11 2:36am
Well let me ask you this: How did he know where the brakes were?
The only people who have any knowledge of the brakes are Anthony and Adam. Adam because he told Samus where to go (yet she doesn't go there and its not on the map) and Anthony who finds them. I kind of find it hard to believe he got lucky in surviving that fall AND finding the brakes in one go. If you're going to say he lucked into almost everything in the story, then he's a Mary Sue or whatever the equivalent is for males. Not to mention that he's the character almost everyone bought into; even people who loathe Other M point to Anthony as a shining beacon on a hill, but that may only be by comparison.
In addition to that, he's the one who got Madeline Bergman out of there at the end in a moment that, once again, allowed him to gain Samus' trust for the 3rd time in the game (2 Ridley saves, get out of jail free card). Also, that scene could strike of a 'hey, you work for me, but if you out me right now I'll destroy your ass so keep your mouth shut' which happened after he gave him the notice about the Mission's purpose. I mean, would you piss off a 20 ft tall black man? I don't think so.
Of course, people would probably bitch to Nintendo about being racist then, but I don't think anyone gives a shit about racism in video games, especially after the Resident Evil 5 controversy.
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by Zeroº » 07.15.11 3:38am
Remember where Samus fights Phantoon during the epilogue? Control Bridge. Bam, ship's controls. They all knew where it was considering as how it was where James was supposed to go in order to get the communications back up. And before you can say that no one in Platoon 7 had any maps to the place, let's take into consideration that Adam was pulling up maps on that briefing console he was sitting at and that there were Navigation Booths every 15 feet. In the game's own words (namely, Melissa's), the only part of the ship that wasn't supposed to be on the map was Sector Zero. Even then, finding the Control Bridge on a ship like the Bottle Ship would have been a simple strategy of "go up until you find some controls," which would have worked...
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by Chris » 07.15.11 5:17am
How did he know where the brakes were? Easy, he looked for them...
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by HYRUL3 » 07.15.11 5:21am
Chris wrote:How did he know where the brakes were? Easy, he looked for them...
Far too logical. And I detect no conspiracy theory. Fail.
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by KingBroly » 07.15.11 6:38am
Zero, the map was transferred to Samus' visor. No one else has a visor like hers and therefore can't get the same map data as her. In addition to that, Adam can't tell where Anthony, KG, James, Maurice and Lyle were unless they were directly in front of Samus as far as we can tell. And why would Anthony be looking for the brakes anyway? Adam didn't convey him a message of any kind for him to do so (assuming Anthony would report in), otherwise Samus would've known about him being alive because Adam would've told her to meet up with him.
There's a massive amount of time there where we don't know where he is. And before you ask, we know Adam is still watching Samus because he's locking doors for her (It's a thing they have).
Other M is a game about people. It's logical to assume that the Other M is a person. Given that Anthony is head and shoulders above everyone in that game (physically and metaphorically speaking) it's more than likely him.
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by Chris » 07.15.11 7:15am
Maybe, just maybe the maps can be read without a visor...
Why is he looking for the brakes? He's on an abandoned research vessel that suddenly starts moving, I'm sure he be intrigued to know who started the ship back up seeing as he is there to locate survivors and all.
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by KingBroly » 07.15.11 7:56am
How would the ship being in motion prevent him from locating survivors? And how would stopping the ship help him find survivors?
I mean, stopping the ship at that point, given how we saw the inertia of the situation (in space?) something like that would cause more harm than good at that point.
Also, someone should've checked Madeline for radiation poisoning and internal bleeding in her skull.
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