Any chance this game will get a sequel?

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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby kronoridley » 11.16.11 1:28pm

Wait.....far more better: A sequel to Fusion that plays like Prime. Everybody's happy!

Just please find a new threat for us to fight, guys. Metroids again and again are getting old
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At least from the perspective of the Space Pirates.

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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby ddddd » 11.16.11 2:10pm

lexmetroid wrote:It's evident that some don't like the game; but it's misleading to make assertions that the game sold less than it actually did. Other M was the 9th best selling game for the month of September 2010, and sold 173,000 units in that timeframe in North America alone, as reported by NPD.

Furthermore, Media-Create listed Other M as the 13th best selling game for Wii in Japan for 2010, at 71,410 units.

And, since Reggie himself stated that Other M was nearing 500,000 copies sold in North America alone in November of last year, it's safe to assume that Other M has surpassed that mark by now, especially since Other M managed to make its way in to the top 100 several times on sites like Amazon when put on sale earlier this year.

Comparing it to Metroid Prime 2, which sold about 800,000 worldwide (see this IGN article, 2nd to last paragraph), I'd say that while Other M certainly didn't sell as well as Nintendo had hoped, it seemed to be in line with other games in the series, and not this terrible flop that everyone makes it out to be.

Other M was a big project, I wouldn't doubt this was the most expensive and demanding metroid ever produced (if all metroids had been made within the same economy I mean), it has massive amount of voice acting (with multiple language translations for more regions besides the EU), lenghty great looking cgi animations, with bigger advertising than usual, made entirely on a new (I think) wii engine, with a collaboration between three companies, etc...

The game must have made a profit no doubt, but for all ]I mentioned, it would have needed more sales to not be considered a failure.

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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby okey » 11.16.11 7:11pm

KingBroly wrote:I know it didn't sell through the initial 500k shipment in the US, and in the UK it started out at like...33 then dropped out. I'm thinking it was 150k+ in the US, 60k in Japan, then 150k in EU, so not a lot. There are A LOT of copies still on shelves. Check out your local Best Buy and you'll probably see 20-30 copies of the game on shelves, minimum. All at $50. They didn't move when they lowered it to $20, either.

Remember how for like a week or two Amazon was selling this game for $15 but buying it for $16? It was like they were paying you to speedrun the game.

That's if people even bought it then. The idea of a game not selling at -$1 is hilarious.

kronoridley wrote:Wait.....far more better: A sequel to Fusion that plays like Prime. Everybody's happy!

Except for the people who want another sidescroller...

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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby Opium » 11.17.11 3:30pm

God, I hope they don't make a sequel. I hope they have enough sense to pretend this game never happened.
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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby Ikke » 11.17.11 5:09pm

Opium wrote:God, I hope they don't make a sequel. I hope they have enough sense to pretend this game never happened.


This will never happen. They will probably learn from what went wrong and take a break from now before considering a sequel.

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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby Trishbot » 11.18.11 3:34pm

Ikke wrote:
Opium wrote:God, I hope they don't make a sequel. I hope they have enough sense to pretend this game never happened.


This will never happen. They will probably learn from what went wrong and take a break from now before considering a sequel.


I don't know. The "ignore it and move on" attitude worked great for Capcom towards Devil May Cry 2, Resident Evil Survivor/Gaiden, and Twisted Metal 3&4. Sega went even further by discontinuing Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 just to ensure less people would be exposed to it and they could try and rebuild their tarnished brand.

I mean, honestly, truly honestly, I would not mind at ALL if Other M was never brought up or addressed again in a true "Chuck Cunningham Syndrome" sort of way. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChuckCunninghamSyndrome. I'd care even less if the next game was utterly fantastic in a "nobody even remembers Street Fighter I" sense by being so ground-breaking, high-quality, and timeless that even if Other M was brought up again, nobody would care because the new game was just THAT good.
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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby Opium » 11.18.11 8:46pm

I was thinking of Virtual Boy when talking about the forget-it-and-move-on concept.
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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby Ikke » 11.23.11 5:10pm

Opium wrote:I was thinking of Virtual Boy when talking about the forget-it-and-move-on concept.


As in decanonizing M:OM?

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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby okey » 03.27.12 11:24am

I hope not. After playing Ninja Gaiden 3 I don't think I want Team Ninja near any future Metroid games.

I know some of the best sequels are a result of devs learning from massive fuck-ups, but man they've actually regressed since Other M.

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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby ddddd » 03.27.12 8:42pm

okey wrote:I hope not. After playing Ninja Gaiden 3 I don't think I want Team Ninja near any future Metroid games.

I know some of the best sequels are a result of devs learning from massive fuck-ups, but man they've actually regressed since Other M.

But team ninja would be supervised and they would have to comply with whatever decision was made from whoever was in charge. In this case TN would only be able to suggest things. With their own games, team ninja only has themselves as supervisors.

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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby Zynux » 03.28.12 5:57pm

Supervised by who? Sakamoto? A lot of people still believe that that was the game's biggest detriment.


Now, as regarding this thread, I was actually all for a game like Other M (Action-wise) but with a much needed gameplay overhaul to make it more strategic and less repetitive but still retain key Metroid concepts as well, with Team Ninja for the gameplay (I disagreed with their involvement with the art but w/e). But after the reaction and design choices of Ninja Gaiden 3 I'm not too sure anymore. Of course, I'll need to play the game for myself before I make a concrete judgement, but still...maybe this game (and a possible sequel) really should just be forgotten.


okey wrote:I hope not. After playing Ninja Gaiden 3 I don't think I want Team Ninja near any future Metroid games.

You actually got your hands on the game? Is it really that disappointing?
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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby Tianna » 03.28.12 7:18pm

kronoridley wrote:Wait.....far more better: A sequel to Fusion that plays like Prime. Everybody's happy!


No. Just no. Not everyone likes the FPS style of the Primes, so no, not everyone would be happy. And I for one would be pissed to be shut out of another Metroid game, especially if it was the main storyline.

I personally would not mind the general playstyle of M:OM making a return, but a sequel to it entirely? No. Let's move on.
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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby Zynux » 03.28.12 7:39pm

Yeah, I agree, no more Prime please. Though I would definitely want a sequel to Fusion.
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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby rondus18 » 03.28.12 8:17pm

ddddd wrote:But team ninja would be supervised and they would have to comply with whatever decision was made from whoever was in charge. In this case TN would only be able to suggest things. With their own games, team ninja only has themselves as supervisors.

When you find yourself saying "don't worry, we'll closely monitor them to make sure they don't fuck it up," that's usually a good sign that you need to pick a different developer. Preferably one that better understands and shares the same vision for the game that you have.

They could still make a good game, but finding a developer that you have more confidence in would probably yield a better game.
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Re: Any chance this game will get a sequel?

Postby ddddd » 03.28.12 8:46pm

rondus18 wrote:When you find yourself saying "don't worry, we'll closely monitor them to make sure they don't fuck it up," that's usually a good sign that you need to pick a different developer. Preferably one that better understands and shares the same vision for the game that you have.

They could still make a good game, but finding a developer that you have more confidence in would probably yield a better game.

But isnt that exactly why they were chosen and how development went? As far as I know team ninja didnt have full creative control, all they did was gameplay and engine work.

All Im saying is that they can make all the crappy NG games they want, if they had to do another otherm it would be under different conditions. Is not their IP.

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