Samus ends

by **DarkSammy313** » 04.29.12 7:46pm

When Miyamoto or someone else ends the Metroid series,do you think they should kill off Samus or have her retire from her bounty hunting?

by **Remnants** » 04.29.12 8:26pm

That is, if they decide for "one final release". If they don't plan ahead, the series would end abruptly.

The most story we've seen in any Metroid game would be Other M of course and as far as stories go as far as complexity and structure, it's far from stellar. I'm not even going on about "good or bad", it's more about what are all the things that happened as well as considering how everything impacted each other (before and after said things got destroyed) and how the timeline was affected.

So yeah, I'm sure we can continue to expect future Metroid games with relatively simple stories so don't expect anything too dramatic like that.

by **DarkSammy313** » 04.29.12 8:37pm

Remnants wrote:That is, if they decide for "one final release". If they don't plan ahead, the series would end abruptly.

The most story we've seen in any Metroid game would be Other M of course and as far as stories go as far as complexity and structure, it's far from stellar. I'm not even going on about "good or bad", it's more about what are all the things that happened as well as considering how everything impacted each other (before and after said things got destroyed) and how the timeline was affected.

So yeah, I'm sure we can continue to expect future Metroid games with relatively simple stories so don't expect anything too dramatic like that.

I know they will probably make more Metroid games but my question is when they end Metroid eventually should they kill off Samus or have her retire from bounty hunting.

by **Remnants** » 04.29.12 8:55pm

DarkSammy313 wrote:I know they will probably make more Metroid games but my question is when they end Metroid eventually should they kill off Samus or have her retire from bounty hunting.

Heh, that depends on what they want to do to the audience. Retiring would appeal to people who like happy endings. Well, light-hearted things like that aren't uncommon with Nintendo.

Or they could solidify her place in players' memories and have her die a heroic death befitting the greatest warriors. Lived a warrior, died a hero. The impact of her sacrifice being something that could well ripple the very fabric of time and space itself. Take that however you will.

by **Emperor Ing** » 04.29.12 11:23pm

Look at Irem with the R-Type series.

It had three "this is the last game" games.

And each time it was "Man we destroyed the Bydo for good!"

I'd imagine it'd be similar for Metroid. Some type of feel-good final conflict that would be conveniently ignored for the next installment.

Hey, just like Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion!

by **samusfan** » 04.30.12 2:31am

Maybe they do something to her like happened to Goku in the end of dragonball series

Or maybe it will never end with the conflict of Samus x Ridley,

I cannot see a end for metroid series, and i think is better in this way.

by **DarkPhazonElite** » 04.30.12 10:01am

The way they did the Dragonball ending in GT was just anticlimactic and sad. I don't want to see this in Metroid. As for how Metroid would end, I'm just not sure.

by **DarkSammy313** » 04.30.12 3:54pm

samusfan wrote:Maybe they do something to her like happened to Goku in the end of dragonball series

Or maybe it will never end with the conflict of Samus x Ridley,

I cannot see a end for metroid series, and i think is better in this way.

Everything has to end. My problem is,you guys aren't really answering my question.

by **Zynux** » 04.30.12 8:58pm

DarkSammy313 wrote:Everything has to end. My problem is,you guys aren't really answering my question.

"Ending" and having a "conclusion" are two different things. Even if they stop making Metroid games, that doesn't mean there will be a conclusion to the entire franchise.

by **doc O. Mire** » 04.30.12 9:38pm

I'm going to copypasta my idea I posted in a different metroid forum:

djehuty (aka, the 'doc O. Mire' of shinesparkers) wrote:...somehow the baby metroid survived or created a clone before it sacrificed itself for Samus. It comes back in the last game, helping Samus destroy the very last of the Federation's attempts at creating some sort of bioweapon (either most metroids, X's or something worse still)

Hints throughout the story show that the more energy the metroid absorbs, the more difficult it is for it to control its urge to feed. So in the very end, someone (maybe Anthony) would be attacked by the super metroid, and Samus would have to defend them. As her final act, she has herself and the baby launched into deep space, where the temperature is near absolute zero. The metroid freezes to death, but not before turning Samus to dust like all of its other victims

During the end credits, you see the swirling dust as it (almost consciously) [checks up on] Samus' old friends, tying up any loose ends and showing that maybe Samus isn't quite as dead as suggested (there are still legends in the Metroid-verse of chozo having become spirits instead of simply being wiped out)

So, basically, I'd imagine that Samus would die eventually since she doesn't have a somewhat convoluted plot device keeping her alive like Link does, but go down in legends and history, inspiring future generations of hunters

by **okey** » 04.30.12 9:58pm

Hey they turned Adam into an immortal AI, and that guy wasn't even good at anything.

Why couldn't they do that to Samus? Imagine all the cool shit she could do if she didn't have to worry about the suit turning her body into mush.

by **samusfan** » 04.30.12 10:21pm

If Samus will die,it will be really sad for me.But i think it is the only way to stop her fighting against the pirates and problems of universe.I really hope that the story will never get a conclusion

The answer is:Of course it will ends if she dies only

by **1upD** » 05.20.12 1:11pm

I have a sad feeling that the series will never proceed to Metroid 5. Look at how many interquels there's been since Fusion came out! With that in mind, sometimes I wonder if Metroid Fusion should have ended with some kind of 'ultimate sacrifice' to tie all the loose ends. As it is, we may never know what happens next...

by **okey** » 05.21.12 4:00pm

Yeah, it was a really bad idea to get rid of Metroids and Space Pirates without creating some new enemies first. I wonder if the biggest reason that there's no Metroid V is because nobody can think of a way to turn the Federation into interesting bad guys.

Samus fighting human enemies just seems really wrong. Would you really want to play a Metroid game where primary enemies are generic guys with assault rifles?

by **1upD** » 05.21.12 4:44pm

okey wrote:Yeah, it was a really bad idea to get rid of Metroids and Space Pirates without creating some new enemies first. I wonder if the biggest reason that there's no Metroid V is because nobody can think of a way to turn the Federation into interesting bad guys.

Samus fighting human enemies just seems really wrong. Would you really want to play a Metroid game where primary enemies are generic guys with assault rifles?

Yes. Who you callin' generic?

One artist drew a sketch of Samus in an updated Omega Suit hiding behind a rock while a squad of Federation marines and a Nightmare filed past. Now THAT would be interesting.

It doesn't even have to be the Federation in the way we'd expect. Think about it. In Metroid: Other M, we were actually fighting Federation troops. Well, a failed experiment to create them, at least.

DarkSammy313 Posts: 42 Joined: 04.28.12 7:15pm	Samus ends by DarkSammy313 » 04.29.12 7:46pm When Miyamoto or someone else ends the Metroid series,do you think they should kill off Samus or have her retire from her bounty hunting? Phazon,you can run from it,but you can't hide from it.
Remnants Posts: 526 Joined: 05.01.11 9:08pm	Re: Samus ends by Remnants » 04.29.12 8:26pm That is, if they decide for "one final release". If they don't plan ahead, the series would end abruptly. The most story we've seen in any Metroid game would be Other M of course and as far as stories go as far as complexity and structure, it's far from stellar. I'm not even going on about "good or bad", it's more about what are all the things that happened as well as considering how everything impacted each other (before and after said things got destroyed) and how the timeline was affected. So yeah, I'm sure we can continue to expect future Metroid games with relatively simple stories so don't expect anything too dramatic like that. In times of crisis, weakness cannot survive. But be very careful how you define strength. "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Security is a superstition. It does not exist in nature" - Hellen Keller
DarkSammy313 Posts: 42 Joined: 04.28.12 7:15pm	Re: Samus ends by DarkSammy313 » 04.29.12 8:37pm Remnants wrote:That is, if they decide for "one final release". If they don't plan ahead, the series would end abruptly. The most story we've seen in any Metroid game would be Other M of course and as far as stories go as far as complexity and structure, it's far from stellar. I'm not even going on about "good or bad", it's more about what are all the things that happened as well as considering how everything impacted each other (before and after said things got destroyed) and how the timeline was affected. So yeah, I'm sure we can continue to expect future Metroid games with relatively simple stories so don't expect anything too dramatic like that. I know they will probably make more Metroid games but my question is when they end Metroid eventually should they kill off Samus or have her retire from bounty hunting. Phazon,you can run from it,but you can't hide from it.
Remnants Posts: 526 Joined: 05.01.11 9:08pm	Re: Samus ends by Remnants » 04.29.12 8:55pm DarkSammy313 wrote:I know they will probably make more Metroid games but my question is when they end Metroid eventually should they kill off Samus or have her retire from bounty hunting. Heh, that depends on what they want to do to the audience. Retiring would appeal to people who like happy endings. Well, light-hearted things like that aren't uncommon with Nintendo. Or they could solidify her place in players' memories and have her die a heroic death befitting the greatest warriors. Lived a warrior, died a hero. The impact of her sacrifice being something that could well ripple the very fabric of time and space itself. Take that however you will. In times of crisis, weakness cannot survive. But be very careful how you define strength. "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Security is a superstition. It does not exist in nature" - Hellen Keller
Emperor Ing Posts: 4943 Joined: 12.27.07 1:22pm Location: ENGAGING RIDLEY MOTHER FUCKER	Re: Samus ends by Emperor Ing » 04.29.12 11:23pm Look at Irem with the R-Type series. It had three "this is the last game" games. And each time it was "Man we destroyed the Bydo for good!" I'd imagine it'd be similar for Metroid. Some type of feel-good final conflict that would be conveniently ignored for the next installment. Hey, just like Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion! Hiroshi Mishima wrote:must be some sorta side effect of the hatchling or maybe she should stop going down on Miyamoto.
samusfan Posts: 133 Joined: 01.08.12 10:52pm Location: Brazil	Re: Samus ends by samusfan » 04.30.12 2:31am Maybe they do something to her like happened to Goku in the end of dragonball series Or maybe it will never end with the conflict of Samus x Ridley, I cannot see a end for metroid series, and i think is better in this way. If i was in Metroid universe, i would marry Samus,and if i could choose an ability,Speed Booster would be mine.Finally i got all ending pictures,Metroid Fusion JP Version Completed
DarkPhazonElite Posts: 576 Joined: 03.16.12 6:42pm Location: The Phazon Mines (aka Pasadena, TX) Website	Re: Samus ends by DarkPhazonElite » 04.30.12 10:01am The way they did the Dragonball ending in GT was just anticlimactic and sad. I don't want to see this in Metroid. As for how Metroid would end, I'm just not sure.
DarkSammy313 Posts: 42 Joined: 04.28.12 7:15pm	Re: Samus ends by DarkSammy313 » 04.30.12 3:54pm samusfan wrote:Maybe they do something to her like happened to Goku in the end of dragonball series Or maybe it will never end with the conflict of Samus x Ridley, I cannot see a end for metroid series, and i think is better in this way. Everything has to end. My problem is,you guys aren't really answering my question. Phazon,you can run from it,but you can't hide from it.
Zynux Posts: 584 Joined: 12.13.11 8:56pm Location: West Chester, PA	Re: Samus ends by Zynux » 04.30.12 8:58pm DarkSammy313 wrote:Everything has to end. My problem is,you guys aren't really answering my question. "Ending" and having a "conclusion" are two different things. Even if they stop making Metroid games, that doesn't mean there will be a conclusion to the entire franchise. Last edited by Zynux on 04.30.12 9:56pm, edited 1 time in total. "Cut! There are no second chances for actors that fall to the abyss. Await your second casting in the darkness forever." - The Night of Wallachia
doc O. Mire Posts: 1060 Joined: 08.23.10 5:24pm Location: Inside a chimney, thinking	Re: Samus ends by doc O. Mire » 04.30.12 9:38pm I'm going to copypasta my idea I posted in a different metroid forum: djehuty (aka, the 'doc O. Mire' of shinesparkers) wrote:...somehow the baby metroid survived or created a clone before it sacrificed itself for Samus. It comes back in the last game, helping Samus destroy the very last of the Federation's attempts at creating some sort of bioweapon (either most metroids, X's or something worse still) Hints throughout the story show that the more energy the metroid absorbs, the more difficult it is for it to control its urge to feed. So in the very end, someone (maybe Anthony) would be attacked by the super metroid, and Samus would have to defend them. As her final act, she has herself and the baby launched into deep space, where the temperature is near absolute zero. The metroid freezes to death, but not before turning Samus to dust like all of its other victims During the end credits, you see the swirling dust as it (almost consciously) [checks up on] Samus' old friends, tying up any loose ends and showing that maybe Samus isn't quite as dead as suggested (there are still legends in the Metroid-verse of chozo having become spirits instead of simply being wiped out) So, basically, I'd imagine that Samus would die eventually since she doesn't have a somewhat convoluted plot device keeping her alive like Link does, but go down in legends and history, inspiring future generations of hunters "Writing is easy. You just stare at a blank page until your forehead starts to bleed." - Douglas Adams
okey Posts: 786 Joined: 06.29.11 1:37pm Location: Philadelphia, PA	Re: Samus ends by okey » 04.30.12 9:58pm Hey they turned Adam into an immortal AI, and that guy wasn't even good at anything. Why couldn't they do that to Samus? Imagine all the cool shit she could do if she didn't have to worry about the suit turning her body into mush.
samusfan Posts: 133 Joined: 01.08.12 10:52pm Location: Brazil	Re: Samus ends by samusfan » 04.30.12 10:21pm If Samus will die,it will be really sad for me.But i think it is the only way to stop her fighting against the pirates and problems of universe.I really hope that the story will never get a conclusion The answer is:Of course it will ends if she dies only If i was in Metroid universe, i would marry Samus,and if i could choose an ability,Speed Booster would be mine.Finally i got all ending pictures,Metroid Fusion JP Version Completed
1upD Posts: 1033 Joined: 06.13.08 7:48pm	Re: Samus ends by 1upD » 05.20.12 1:11pm I have a sad feeling that the series will never proceed to Metroid 5. Look at how many interquels there's been since Fusion came out! With that in mind, sometimes I wonder if Metroid Fusion should have ended with some kind of 'ultimate sacrifice' to tie all the loose ends. As it is, we may never know what happens next...
okey Posts: 786 Joined: 06.29.11 1:37pm Location: Philadelphia, PA	Re: Samus ends by okey » 05.21.12 4:00pm Yeah, it was a really bad idea to get rid of Metroids and Space Pirates without creating some new enemies first. I wonder if the biggest reason that there's no Metroid V is because nobody can think of a way to turn the Federation into interesting bad guys. Samus fighting human enemies just seems really wrong. Would you really want to play a Metroid game where primary enemies are generic guys with assault rifles?
1upD Posts: 1033 Joined: 06.13.08 7:48pm	Re: Samus ends by 1upD » 05.21.12 4:44pm okey wrote:Yeah, it was a really bad idea to get rid of Metroids and Space Pirates without creating some new enemies first. I wonder if the biggest reason that there's no Metroid V is because nobody can think of a way to turn the Federation into interesting bad guys. Samus fighting human enemies just seems really wrong. Would you really want to play a Metroid game where primary enemies are generic guys with assault rifles? Yes. Who you callin' generic? One artist drew a sketch of Samus in an updated Omega Suit hiding behind a rock while a squad of Federation marines and a Nightmare filed past. Now THAT would be interesting. It doesn't even have to be the Federation in the way we'd expect. Think about it. In Metroid: Other M, we were actually fighting Federation troops. Well, a failed experiment to create them, at least.

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