Metroid Timeline

[Dryn]

Hello, everyone! I'm new to the Metroid Database Message Board. I checked the other pages in this sub-forum to see if there was anything regarding a timeline in the Metroid Universe. The only thing I could find was this. I don't think that thread is focusing too much on a timeline, though. So, why bring up a timeline in the Metroid Prime section? I am here, because I personally think we get a bit more information from these games to formulate some timeline. I don't know too much about Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt, since I've never played the game. Anyway, my curiosity of a timeline came when I was thinking about writing a Metroid story that could be portrayed accurately. I suppose I could start this off with what I wrote.

The Luminoth encountered the Chozo on an unnamed planet. At this time, the Luminoth were still seeking a planet to claim. They encountered the Chozo and the Ylla, and eventually, they found Aether and claimed it for themselves. It seems that the Bryyonians were also aware of the existence of the Chozo, Luminoth, and Ylla (Vlla in the scan, "Age of Science"). At this time, the Luminoth were probably living on planet Aether. We do not know how long the Luminoth lived on Aether before a Phazon meteor struck and brought about Dark Aether. I would want to say it was fifty years, but that would assume a Phazon meteor landed on Tallon IV, while another landed on planet Aether at the same time, since the Phazon meteor hit Tallon IV fifty years ago. (See Tallon IV Incident)

The problem I have with the Phazon meteor striking Tallon IV fifty years ago is that in Metroid Prime, the Pirate Data, Phazon Analysis, says that the meteor struck Tallon IV "approximately 20 years ago."

That's all I have so far. What do you all think?

[Dryn]

Thanks! That's probably going to be the most problematic thing to get by, because I really would like to see a timeline for Metroid. People could probably say that the Pirates were using their own type of calendar, but there's nothing to prove that. We know the timeline from Metroid (NES) to Metroid Fusion, but the Log Book is all jumbled about, and if you want a story out of it, you're going to have to use all the Lores and Pirate Data to figure this stuff out. What I mean by jumbled is that we have a date about the Chozo creating the Elysian 1,400 years ago, and all this other stuff, and you have to piece it together. I only brought up the Metroid story as well, because again, if you want to make your story accurate, you got to have the correct information. I was hoping we could get some more discussion on this.

Welcome to the MDB, Drym!

Judging from the various games, manga, and manuals, the canonical metroid timeline looks something like this:


1. Chozo empire covers a large section (if not the entirety) of the galaxy. They are allied with Luminoth, N'Kren, and Vlla, though the Chozo appear to be the most powerful of this union.

2. The Chozo and their buddies make contact with Bryyo. Shit goes badly.

3. Elyssian race is created by the Chozo. Luminoth abandon their nomadism and settle Aether as an adopted homeworld (it is unknown where the luminoth came from originally).

4. Phaaze is observed on longrange Elyssian telemetry.

5. For one reason or another, this ancient empire falls. The Chozo and their allies become few in number, and take refuge in isolated planets throughout the galaxy (such as Aether, Tallon IV, and Zebes). It is implied in the manga that the Chozo somehow lost their ability to reproduce.

6. The Tallon IV Chozo practice a mystical religion that allows them to evolve into immortal energy beings. The Luminoth of Aether turn isolationist and hide their existence from the galaxy at large.

7. The dwindling Chozo race (particularly those on Zebes) helps some of the younger races of the galaxy form a Galactic Federation, to follow in the footsteps of their own fallen empire. Unfortunately, there are barbarians like the Space Pirates who are making this difficult.

8. Phaaze launches a leviathan at Aether, and then another one at Tallon IV not long afterward.

9. Space Pirates, led by Ridley, destroy a human colony at K2L. A four year old Samus Aran is the only survivor. Fortunately, Chozo traders happen to be nearby, and save her from the ruins, taking her back to Zebes to be raised as the ultimate warrior. Their bio-mechanical supercomputer, Mother Brain, is annoyed by this.

10. The Zebesian Chozo find out about a potentially dangerous organism called X, on the planet SR388. They use Mother Brain to design the Metroid organism to wipe out X.

11. Samus, now in her late teens, leaves Zebes to join the Federation armed forces.

12. Mother Brain decides that she can run the galaxy better than the Federation or Chozo ever could. She betrays the Chozo and lures the Space Pirates to her side to be her army.

13. Samus goes back to Zebes and fucks shit up.


Note that a lot of the sources contradict each other (for instance, in the games the Chozo are much more mysterious and absent from galactic affairs than they are in the manga. It also stands to wonder why the pirates bothered stealing metroids from the Federation if Mother Brain already knew how to make them). In those cases, I just picked the most recent source and went off of that.

As you can probably tell, I'm not a fan of the manga. But its official canon, so for the purposes of this timeline I held to it.

[Dryn]

Welcome to the MDB, Drym!

Thanks! Haha! My name was misspelled again. Don't worry, though. Some have written my name, "Dyrn."

2. The Chozo and their buddies make contact with Bryyo. Shit goes badly.

I've been confused about the Chozo and planet Bryyo. I'm not sure if the Chozo ever been on Bryyo, or if the Bryyonians just contacted them from a distance, along with the Luminoth and the Ylla. In Age of Science, it says,

The ships of Bryyo sped to the stars, in all directions, bearing the banner of peace. Soon we found stellar brethren in the Chozo, the Luminoth, and the Vlla. Starborne knowledge came to Bryyo, and we gladly sent our wisdom to our new friends in return.

It seems like the Bryyonians went to them. Then again, De'la was a Chozo who bestowed the gift of knowledge to the Reptilicus. Still, I'm not sure if that statue of De'la and N'ge was a portrait of what occurred on Bryyo or some other planet. So, if the Bryyonians went to the Chozo, the Luminoth, and the Ylla, then the Chozo were probably on planet Elysia or some unnamed planet before Elysia.

5. For one reason or another, this ancient empire falls. The Chozo and their allies become few in number, and take refuge in isolated planets throughout the galaxy (such as Aether, Tallon IV, and Zebes). It is implied in the manga that the Chozo somehow lost their ability to reproduce.

According to the Metroid manga, it appears that there are Chozo living on other planets besides Zebes, and they were called to Zebes. This is where another Chozo named Platinum Chest appears. And yeah, the Chozo race is dwindling, because their longevity keeps them from reproducing, it seems. I don't know how that makes any sense, but I'm not too worried about that right now.

6. The Tallon IV Chozo practice a mystical religion that allows them to evolve into immortal energy beings. The Luminoth of Aether turn isolationist and hide their existence from the galaxy at large.

They're into some kind of shamanism. I'll probably go back and reread the Chozo Lore regarding the Chozo and their ethereal state. What's interesting is that in Super Metroid, the Chozo immortalize themselves by turning into statues. I wonder if that's what goes on here.

8. Phaaze launches a leviathan at Aether, and then another one at Tallon IV not long afterward.

All right. I'd just like to know when this occurs. Then again, if we use the Metroid manga, some of the Chozo on Tallon IV could have knowledge of Samus' existence, and that she'll come to purge Phazon from Tallon IV. I just find it unreasonable that the Chozo would leave planet Zebes and head to Tallon IV, and live there, despite there being Phazon. That's something else that's been troubling me a bit.

10. The Zebesian Chozo find out about a potentially dangerous organism called X, on the planet SR388. They use Mother Brain to design the Metroid organism to wipe out X.

I have personally always thought that the Chozo lived on planet SR388 and created the Metroids on that planet. I mean, how else do the Metroids get to planet SR388? Nothing is said about that, and from what it seems, SR388 is their native homeworld. There are some ruins there in the game that seem to have been abandoned. This is one of my issues with the manga, aside from a few other things.

Note that a lot of the sources contradict each other (for instance, in the games the Chozo are much more mysterious and absent from galactic affairs than they are in the manga.

What I am fine with the manga is that Samus is born on planet K-2L, she loses both her parents, Rodney and Virginia Aran, and the whole shebang. There are aspects, like the first Metroid being created on planet Zebes, or that Samus' identity is known instead of being mysterious. This is contrary to the Metroid (NES) Instruction Booklet, or so I think. And the Chozo, which you brought up, are mysterious and mystical in the Metroid series, but the manga just seems to demythologize them by making them more personal.

It also stands to wonder why the pirates bothered stealing metroids from the Federation if Mother Brain already knew how to make them). In those cases, I just picked the most recent source and went off of that.

As you can probably tell, I'm not a fan of the manga. But its official canon, so for the purposes of this timeline I held to it.

Same here. Thanks. Do you know where the Alimbics might fall into all of this? The link I posted in my first post has me interested in how far all of this actually goes. I'm not asking for the date, but I am wondering where they'd land in the timeline.

Thanks! Haha! My name was misspelled again. Don't worry, though. Some have written my name, "Dyrn."

Hahaha, sorry.

I've been confused about the Chozo and planet Bryyo. I'm not sure if the Chozo ever been on Bryyo, or if the Bryyonians just contacted them from a distance, along with the Luminoth and the Ylla.

My impression was that the Bryyons made contact with the Chozo, but never ventured too far from their homeworld (otherwise, some of them would have probably survived the civil war). My theory is that it was a bit like Star Trek: First Contact. When the Bryyons started testing hyperlight travel, they attracted the attention of the Chozo, who then came to their planet.

the Luminoth, and the Ylla, then the Chozo were probably on planet Elysia or some unnamed planet before Elysia.

I think that the Chozo and their allies were on a LOT of planets at that point in history. Sprawling interstellar empire. Elysia was probably just one colony among dozens or hundreds.

They're into some kind of shamanism. I'll probably go back and reread the Chozo Lore regarding the Chozo and their ethereal state.

They succeeded where generations of human mystics have failed. Chozo are frighteningly good at the things they set their minds to.

What's interesting is that in Super Metroid, the Chozo immortalize themselves by turning into statues. I wonder if that's what goes on here.

I was under the distinct impression that the statues in Super Metroid were cybernetic constructs. It mentions in one of the Metroid Prime lores that some chozo statues are designed to defend their sites. That's all there is to it; just big, ornate robots.

All right. I'd just like to know when this occurs. Then again, if we use the Metroid manga, some of the Chozo on Tallon IV could have knowledge of Samus' existence, and that she'll come to purge Phazon from Tallon IV. I just find it unreasonable that the Chozo would leave planet Zebes and head to Tallon IV, and live there, despite there being Phazon. That's something else that's been troubling me a bit.

The Zebesian and Tallonian colonies were seperate. I don't think there had been any contact between those two chozo groups for a long time (otherwise, the Zebesians would surely have tried to do something about Tallon IV's phazon situation. Or at least asked their Galactic Federation buddies to do it).

What I am fine with the manga is that Samus is born on planet K-2L, she loses both her parents, Rodney and Virginia Aran, and the whole shebang. There are aspects, like the first Metroid being created on planet Zebes, or that Samus' identity is known instead of being mysterious. This is contrary to the Metroid (NES) Instruction Booklet, or so I think. And the Chozo, which you brought up, are mysterious and mystical in the Metroid series, but the manga just seems to demythologize them by making them more personal.

I don't have a problem with the chozo being personal so much as them being present. In the games, they're portrayed as the enigmatic and long-absent founder race, whose disappearance mystifies the galaxy and whose technological relics are priceless treasures, worth killing for.

In the manga, however, they just walk into the Federation counsel chamber and are like "hey, we're the chozo, whatsup?" and the politicians are like "not much, wanna stay for tea?" Everyone in the galaxy seems to know that there are still living chozo on Zebes, and they openly trade with humans and other races (like on K2L at the beginning of the manga). No mystery. No creepiness.

I feel that Nintendo did an injustice to their own work when they put out the manga. Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about it besides ignore it in my fan fiction.

Same here. Thanks. Do you know where the Alimbics might fall into all of this? The link I posted in my first post has me interested in how far all of this actually goes. I'm not asking for the date, but I am wondering where they'd land in the timeline.

If I had to guess, I'd say that the rise of the Alimbics was after the fall of the Chozo. The Alimbics might have had the potential to conquer the galaxy and become the new dominant power if they hadn't been destroyed by Gorea first.

[CapCom]

You know, the MDb also has a timeline (with dates). It doesn't incorporate all the material from the Manga (as it hasn't been updated in a year).

http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/?g ... p=timeline

[Dryn]

I was under the distinct impression that the statues in Super Metroid were cybernetic constructs. It mentions in one of the Metroid Prime lores that some chozo statues are designed to defend their sites. That's all there is to it; just big, ornate robots.

If that is true, then Nintendo has yet screwed up again. The Super Metroid Instruction Booklet says,

The ancient bird people of Zebes are immortalized in the form of several statues scattered throughout the planet. By firing on the balls that are held by many of these Chozo statues, you'll reveal special items.

You know, the MDb also has a timeline (with dates). It doesn't incorporate all the material from the Manga (as it hasn't been updated in a year).

http://mdb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/?g ... p=timeline

Thanks, CapCom. Did you do this all by yourself? I'd hope there were others who were also helping you out or discussing with you on this. I mean, saying...

Sorry if you don't agree with it, but this is how the timeline is going to be until a new Metroid game is released that clarifies things.

...seems a bit bold if you did this all by yourself. Also, you're the first person I've seen who said that after Elysia, the Chozo headed to Tallon IV.

[mental]

I was under the distinct impression that the statues in Super Metroid were cybernetic constructs. It mentions in one of the Metroid Prime lores that some chozo statues are designed to defend their sites. That's all there is to it; just big, ornate robots.

If that is true, then Nintendo has yet screwed up again. The Super Metroid Instruction Booklet says,

The ancient bird people of Zebes are immortalized in the form of several statues scattered throughout the planet.

That is a common English idiom; it does not mean that the statues are literally Chozo. For example, when this article says that "royal sculptors immortalized the wife of Pharaoh Akhenaten" it does not mean that the royal sculptors literally turned her into a statue.

Anyways, it is said in the Metroid Prime Hunters Instruction Booklet that the Alimbic disappearence occurred "perhaps thousands of years ago, perhaps tens of thousands."

Yes. Although I don't see strong evidence for a connection between the two races, on the basis of the Hunters manual I'm inclined to agree with you that (in Hunters continuity) the Alimbics predate the Chozo.

[Dryn]

That is a common English idiom; it does not mean that the statues are literally Chozo. For example, when this article says that "royal sculptors immortalized the wife of Pharaoh Akhenaten" it does not mean that the royal sculptors literally turned her into a statue.

Super Metroid was made in Japan, not America, so the text would originally have been written in Japanese. But, let's assume you're correct here. Why does the Torizo bleed when Samus fights the first Torizo? Also, why is there a Torizo that is made up of dust in Tourian? And before we decide to ask ourselves why the Torizo could walk around with its head blown off, I should remind us all of Mike the headless chicken.

Anyway, I have decided I'd look a bit into the Metroid Prime Log Books, and I was setting up the data for each character. This is what I gathered. CapCom already made a timeline, but there are times when I was hoping he would show where he came up with some of the stuff he mentioned, instead of just saying, "Fact" and writing about this or that.

The Chozo

• The Chozo have lived for over a millennia. (See Metroid Prime Instruction Booklet, p. 6)
• There seems to be nothing said of the Chozo encountering the Luminoth, nor the Bryyonians in their Lore, neither on planet Elysia, nor on planet Tallon IV. 1. The Luminoth were unimportant as far as Lore goes. 2. The Luminoth encountered the Chozo on an unnamed planet.
• The chronicles of the Elysian began nearly 1,500 years ago. (See MP3 Log Book "Creators")
• "Several decades" pass by while the Chozo are on planet Elysia.
• "The first Elysian, built by Chozo hands, stepped out of the mechanicreche 1,450.82 years ago. (See MP3 Log Book "Gift")
• These "several decades" might be a fifty year period, if one were to subtract 1,500 from 1,450.
• The Chozo launch observation satellites. How long this was going on, we do not know.
• The Chozo Searcher one day discovers planet Phaaze, but the Chozo at that time were unaware of its true identity. (See MP3 Log Book "Discovery")
• "In the year 400 of Elysian reckoning," the Chozo leave planet Elysia, and SkyTown is entrusted to the Elysians. (See MP3 Log Book "Alone")
• It seems two-hundred years pass since the Chozo left planet Elysia. The planet they went to might be planet Tallon IV. (See MP3 Log Book "Slumber")
• If they headed to Tallon IV, how long they were there is unknown. Maybe 200 years?
• Tallon IV was struck by a Phazon meteor "fifty years ago." (See MP3 Log Book "Tallon IV Incident"; Metroid Prime states that the Phazon meteor struck Tallon IV "approximately 20 years ago"; see MP Log Book "Phazon Analysis"; this is inconsistent)
• The survivors flee to an unknown planet. Planet SR388?
• The year 1435 seems important. (See MP3 Log Book "Federation")

The Luminoth

• The Luminoth encountered the N'kren, the Ylla, and the Chozo on an unnamed planet. (See MP2 Log Book "Origins")
• This means that the Luminoth were seeking a planet to claim.
• "For many a great cycle," whatever a "cycle" might be, the Luminoth roamed in search for a planet, and eventually discovered planet Aether. (See MP2 Log Book "Our Heritage")
• How long the Luminoth were on planet Aether before the Phazon meteor struck it, we do not know.
• U-Mos tells Samus during the first time they meet, that the Luminoth and the Ing were at war for decades.
• This war may have lasted for "five decades." (See MP3 Log Book "Anhur Incident")

The Federation

• The Galactic Federation was established in the year 2000, according to the Cosmic Calendar. (See Metroid Instruction Booklet, p. 3; "2003" in MZM; see MZM Instruction Booklet, p. 6)

I wish I had more on the Galactic Federation, but that might be a bit more difficult to gather, and I'm really not too worried about that part right now.

[CapCom]

All the points on the timeline came from data in a log entry, computer scan, or instruction manual. Some of the data obviously don't match up (like 2000 vs 2003 for Federation founding) but you can usually figure out what makes sense and what doesn't based on math and narrative. I had some assistance from Infinity's End and also showed the data to Jesse D. Bottom line is, this is what we as site editors have adopted here even if nobody reads it (part of the idea was to spark discussion actually). I'd rather have a timeline with some inaccuracies but actual dates you can point to rather than a jumbled list of what's and then's. Now that you mention it, I suppose each of those facts in the data below could have had references, but that's something that can be done in a later revision.

you're the first person I've seen who said that after Elysia, the Chozo headed to Tallon IV.

Tallon IV's colonization after Elysia is based on the SkyTown Lore: Alone and the Prime Chozo lore Beginnings and Exodus. I think it's relatively safe to assume that Tallon IV was one of the Chozo's later colonies. Obviously doesn't have to be, but the idea of the Chozo founding a colony that is based on spiritual meditation and one-ness with nature as a culmination of all previous Chozo art, science, and religion suggests that it is one of the swan songs of the Chozo civilization, and eventually led to their transcendence. It doesn't make much sense they would continue exploring the cosmos when they are concerned with exploring inward.

# The survivors flee to an unknown planet. Planet SR388?

I'd guess Zebes. That is, after all, where Old Bird and the rest of the Chozo were living. Existence of the X on SR388 wasn't widely known among the Chozo for some time, based on the manga. Unfortunately, it's not tied together as smoothly as it should, but that's what happens when you get a story written in Japan and another one being simultaneously written in the US...

# Tallon IV was struck by a Phazon meteor "fifty years ago." (See MP3 Log Book "Tallon IV Incident"; Metroid Prime states that the Phazon meteor struck Tallon IV "approximately 20 years ago." (See MP Log Book "Phazon Analysis"; this is inconsistent)

The discrepancy between the Prime 3 log entries and Prime 1 log entries regarding the meteor strike is further confused by the fact that the US and European versions of Prime 1 state completely different things about when the Phazon meteor hit Tallon IV. We didn't adopt the European version. If anything, the Prime 3 log entry retcons anything that might be in the European game because it was made last. When Nintendo ever decides to release the Wii version here, this will hopefully be cleaned up.

[sharonlover]

# The survivors flee to an unknown planet. Planet SR388?

I'd guess Zebes. That is, after all, where Old Bird and the rest of the Chozo were living. Existence of the X on SR388 wasn't widely known among the Chozo for some time, based on the manga. Unfortunately, it's not tied together as smoothly as it should, but that's what happens when you get a story written in Japan and another one being simultaneously written in the US...

I'd have to say that SR-388 was more of an experimental laboratory versus actually being inhabited by the Chozo, at least that's the way I interpreted from the manga.

[Dryn]

Tallon IV's colonization after Elysia is based on the SkyTown Lore: Alone and the Prime Chozo lore Beginnings and Exodus. I think it's relatively safe to assume that Tallon IV was one of the Chozo's later colonies. Obviously doesn't have to be, but the idea of the Chozo founding a colony that is based on spiritual meditation and one-ness with nature as a culmination of all previous Chozo art, science, and religion suggests that it is one of the swan songs of the Chozo civilization, and eventually led to their transcendence. It doesn't make much sense they would continue exploring the cosmos when they are concerned with exploring inward.

Well, I did check back, and the information I threw out was in agreement that the Chozo went to Tallon IV after Elysia. I guess I was the only one who thought wrong. What about the Chozo Lore on Tallon IV? They talk a bit about Samus, even mentioning Samus' name, but how would they know about Samus if she wasn't alive during the time? Another discrepency, perhaps?

I'd guess Zebes. That is, after all, where Old Bird and the rest of the Chozo were living. Existence of the X on SR388 wasn't widely known among the Chozo for some time, based on the manga. Unfortunately, it's not tied together as smoothly as it should, but that's what happens when you get a story written in Japan and another one being simultaneously written in the US...

This is why I'm not liking the manga. On page 6 of the instruction booklet for Metroid 2: The Return of Samus, it says,

The underworld of the planet SR388 is a complicated structure of multi-layered domes and spaces. Some of these contain the ancient ruins of some unknown civilization. These are home to many life forms living on the planet.

It seems that when "ancient civilization" is used in Metroid, it's usually referring to the Chozo. Here, it says "ancient ruins of some unknown civilization." We see also on page 35 of the Super Metroid Instruction Booklet that "Metroids are life forms created by an ancient civilization." Page 40 of the Metroid Fusion Instruction Booklet refers to them as "the ancient Chozo civilization."

The discrepancy between the Prime 3 log entries and Prime 1 log entries regarding the meteor strike is further confused by the fact that the US and European versions of Prime 1 state completely different things about when the Phazon meteor hit Tallon IV. We didn't adopt the European version. If anything, the Prime 3 log entry retcons anything that might be in the European game because it was made last. When Nintendo ever decides to release the Wii version here, this will hopefully be cleaned up.

I guess I'll have to try and find the PAL version.

I'd have to say that SR-388 was more of an experimental laboratory versus actually being inhabited by the Chozo, at least that's the way I interpreted from the manga.

Well, whatever it is, there seems to be Chozo dwelling on that planet.

[Lazarius]

If they mention Samus, it would suggest the meteor struck 20 years ago, as that gives them a couple of years to have know of Samus.

Unless the places she was mentioned were prophecies...?

Super Metroid was made in Japan, not America, so the text would originally have been written in Japanese. But, let's assume you're correct here. Why does the Torizo bleed when Samus fights the first Torizo? Also, why is there a Torizo that is made up of dust in Tourian?

There may be a similar idiom in Japanese, or perhaps the translator was just good at what he did.

The tourizos seem to be cybernetic, meaning at least partly bio-mechanical. Most Chozo technology we've seen so far has biological components, so this should be no surprise. This explains why they would have a bloodlike fluid, and why metroids can feed on them. They are definitely not actual chozo, though; real chozo are smaller and don't shoot missiles out of their faces.

There seems to be nothing said of the Chozo encountering the Luminoth, nor the Bryyonians in their Lore, neither on planet Elysia, nor on planet Tallon IV. 1. The Luminoth were unimportant as far as Lore goes. 2. The Luminoth encountered the Chozo on an unnamed planet.

Why would the chozo mention that in their Tallon IV logs? Those would be distant events in their history, not relevant to the story at hand. That would be like expecting to find Cyrus the Great in a book about twentieth century America.

What about the Chozo Lore on Tallon IV? They talk a bit about Samus, even mentioning Samus' name, but how would they know about Samus if she wasn't alive during the time? Another discrepency, perhaps?

The Tallon IV chozo were on the brink of psychic godhood, and seemed especially good at divining the past and future. I'm pretty sure they knew about Samus via prophecy rather than personal experience.

[Dryn]

There may be a similar idiom in Japanese, or perhaps the translator was just good at what he did.

Proof of that would be good.

The tourizos seem to be cybernetic, meaning at least partly bio-mechanical. Most Chozo technology we've seen so far has biological components, so this should be no surprise. This explains why they would have a bloodlike fluid, and why metroids can feed on them. They are definitely not actual chozo, though; real chozo are smaller and don't shoot missiles out of their faces.

I really am beginning to wonder where this idea about the Torizo being cybernetic organisms came from. I hope it's not because they were called "Torizo" in Super Metroid. (That wouldn't make them cyborgs, anyway.) I've read that the reason why they were called "Torizo" in Super Metroid was because that statue with Kraid, Phantoon, Draygon, and Ridley, were called "Chozo," so "Torizo" was used to avoid any confusion. If the Torizo are statues as mentioned in Statuary, then they'd be like the Mogenars of the Reptilicus, and we both know the Mogenars didn't bleed. Statues don't need to bleed. There's no reason to put some blood-like substance in them.

Why would the chozo mention that in their Tallon IV logs? Those would be distant events in their history, not relevant to the story at hand. That would be like expecting to find Cyrus the Great in a book about twentieth century America.

I brought it up, because I think that the Luminoth met the Chozo on some other planet prior to Elysia and Tallon IV.

The Tallon IV chozo were on the brink of psychic godhood, and seemed especially good at divining the past and future. I'm pretty sure they knew about Samus via prophecy rather than personal experience.

I don't know about that.