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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Lazarius » 10.26.08 6:12am

Quadraxis wrote:Give me Ridley, Dark Samus, Pacman, Megaman, Gordon Freeman, Master Chief, Ico, the blocks from Tetris, Duke Nukem and Travis Touchdown and I will be perfectly happy with the next SSB. (even if it still has a stupid annoying final boss which TELEPORTS AROUND ALL THE TIME AND KILLS YOU WITH ONE HIT)


No to the blocks of Tetris. Maybe they could be Pacman's final smash... No, he'd probably have a Power Pellet, everyone turns blue and runs around randomly. If he touches you you die.
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Quadraxis » 10.26.08 8:50am

Lazarius wrote:
Quadraxis wrote:Give me Ridley, Dark Samus, Pacman, Megaman, Gordon Freeman, Master Chief, Ico, the blocks from Tetris, Duke Nukem and Travis Touchdown and I will be perfectly happy with the next SSB. (even if it still has a stupid annoying final boss which TELEPORTS AROUND ALL THE TIME AND KILLS YOU WITH ONE HIT)


No to the blocks of Tetris. Maybe they could be Pacman's final smash... No, he'd probably have a Power Pellet, everyone turns blue and runs around randomly. If he touches you you die.


The Tetris part was a joke. They'd work as an Assist Trophy or a stage, though.
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Lazarius » 10.26.08 8:56am

Quadraxis wrote:
Lazarius wrote:
Quadraxis wrote:Give me Ridley, Dark Samus, Pacman, Megaman, Gordon Freeman, Master Chief, Ico, the blocks from Tetris, Duke Nukem and Travis Touchdown and I will be perfectly happy with the next SSB. (even if it still has a stupid annoying final boss which TELEPORTS AROUND ALL THE TIME AND KILLS YOU WITH ONE HIT)


No to the blocks of Tetris. Maybe they could be Pacman's final smash... No, he'd probably have a Power Pellet, everyone turns blue and runs around randomly. If he touches you you die.


The Tetris part was a joke. They'd work as an Assist Trophy or a stage, though.


I was aware of that. Wait, you mean Pacman, Megaman and Master Chief WEREN'T JOKES??
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Quadraxis » 10.26.08 9:02am

Lazarius wrote:I was aware of that. Wait, you mean Pacman, Megaman and Master Chief WEREN'T JOKES??


Come on, wouldn't you want to beat the crap out of Master Chief a few hundred times?
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Lazarius » 10.27.08 12:25am

Quadraxis wrote:
Lazarius wrote:I was aware of that. Wait, you mean Pacman, Megaman and Master Chief WEREN'T JOKES??


Come on, wouldn't you want to beat the crap out of Master Chief a few hundred times?


Yes. Yes I fucking would. But it'd get boring, seeing as Samus is so much more powerful than him.
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Naner » 10.27.08 6:41am

Hey, why don't you want Megaman?

And forget seeing Master Chief in there unless the XBox dies.



I would like to see the ray gun looking like a NES Zapper.
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby NESgamer190 » 11.25.08 4:20pm

Darth Naner wrote:Hey, why don't you want Megaman?

And forget seeing Master Chief in there unless the XBox dies.



I would like to see the ray gun looking like a NES Zapper.

@ the xbox dying theory: Nintendo would also have to "devour" the dead console before another competitor snatches its remains.
@ the not wanting megaman deal: eh... I think the high variety of characters is making things more complex...
@ the ray gun looking like a NES zapper thought: *readies a stamp of approval* That idea is bound to win in my book!
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby phoenixfire24 » 12.10.08 11:21pm

I have numerous ideas
1) More Characters (especially Metroid, they got shafted horribly this time)
2) Alternate Costumes
3) Add water too the stage builder, allow the abillity to actually place big chunks of lands on one another so there's not a big gap in between. Also being able to make moving stages would be nice
4) Make ZSS more like an actual transformation. If you select her from the start or change by taunting in battle don't have her suit pieces fall off, just make her suit dissapear and allow for the ability to transform back by taunting if you did that.
5) Add Voice Acting for the Adventure Mode
6) Change the move-sets for clones
7) Make Final Smash's more FINAL! Maybe give each character one per match too use at ANY time, also come up with more immaginative final smashes for Toon Link, and Ness/Lucas. (Samus's Shoop da Whoop is perfect though =D)
8) Maby add in Tourian as a stage for Metroid. It could be a moving stage with Metroids as stage hazards along with lava and Zebetite blocking some paths. Also the Second Form of Mother Brain could be in the background and occasionally fire her Hyper Beam at the Players
9) When playing online with anyone allow for more than one person on the Wii to play -_-
10) I liked the idea of Down B making Samus into the morph ball. Up B could be Spring Ball, Side B could be Boost Ball, B could be Bomb, and Down B could return her to her normal form. Also they could do something like give the ability to hold down the side B and get Ice and Diffusion missles (normal side and B+Hold would=Ice while SmashB+Hold could equal Diffusion) WE NEED MORE FREEZING ATTACKS! (Ice Climbers are a disgrace, they even have Ice in their name and Lucas can freeze better than then, not to mention the poor little fragile Freezie that just wants to be free and slide into a volcano >=( )

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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Naner » 12.11.08 4:01am

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phoenixfire24 wrote:4) Make ZSS more like an actual transformation. If you select her from the start or change by taunting in battle don't have her suit pieces fall off, just make her suit dissapear and allow for the ability to transform back by taunting if you did that.

You mean, as if Samus was removing her suit intentionally, and storing it for later?
I never did her Smash Taunt, though.

phoenixfire24 wrote:5) Add Voice Acting for the Adventure Mode

Depends. I might be OK for Mario, Luigi, Peach, Ness, Wario, Marth, Ike and some others, but Link SHOULD NOT SPEAK and I'd prefer if Samus started talking in a game of her own. Then, we could move on to Smash. Oh, Kirby and Yoshi don't have the ability to speak.

phoenixfire24 wrote:6) Change the move-sets for clones

No one disagrees on that. I guess Luigi is already different enough. And I'll kill someone who thinks Ike's a clone because he has the same B+down.

phoenixfire24 wrote:7) Make Final Smash's more FINAL! Maybe give each character one per match too use at ANY time, also come up with more immaginative final smashes for Toon Link, and Ness/Lucas. (Samus's Shoop da Whoop is perfect though =D)

Nah, I like them the F-Smash system. Of course, it ends up helping the best player, but still. They should fix F-Smashes like Peach's and do some difference for the clones.

phoenixfire24 wrote:8) Maybe add in Tourian as a stage for Metroid. It could be a moving stage with Metroids as stage hazards along with lava and Zebetite blocking some paths. Also the Second Form of Mother Brain could be in the background and occasionally fire her Hyper Beam at the Players

That would be cool. I only think it should be the regular MB, shooting the lasers from ZM. Lasers similar to the enemy Gamya from Subspace.

phoenixfire24 wrote:9) When playing online with anyone allow for more than one person on the Wii to play -_-

YES!

phoenixfire24 wrote:10) I liked the idea of Down B making Samus into the morph ball. Up B could be Spring Ball, Side B could be Boost Ball, B could be Bomb, and Down B could return her to her normal form. Also they could do something like give the ability to hold down the side B and get Ice and Diffusion missles (normal side and B+Hold would=Ice while SmashB+Hold could equal Diffusion) WE NEED MORE FREEZING ATTACKS! (Ice Climbers are a disgrace, they even have Ice in their name and Lucas can freeze better than then, not to mention the poor little fragile Freezie that just wants to be free and slide into a volcano >=( )

Yes, Morph Ball as an alternate form would be interesting. But the transformation couldn't be quick like we're used to. Maybe something like when she gets a Morph Ball power-up in the Primes.
For the extra missiles... If Marth can have his B+front, Samus can have that.




Ever noticed that, if we add all of this we're thinking, Samus would be an invincible character?
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Lazarius » 12.11.08 5:36am

Oh, Kirby and Yoshi don't have the ability to speak.


They can say basic words, Kirby more than Yoshi.
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Naner » 12.11.08 7:02am

Lazarius wrote:
Oh, Kirby and Yoshi don't have the ability to speak.


They can say basic words, Kirby more than Yoshi.

Hmmm... Yoshi says a lot of "Yoshi", but I don't remember Kirby saying anything, except "huh" ans stuff like that. WAIT. He says "bye" in his taunt...
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Lazarius » 12.11.08 7:10am

Darth Naner wrote:
Lazarius wrote:
Oh, Kirby and Yoshi don't have the ability to speak.


They can say basic words, Kirby more than Yoshi.

Hmmm... Yoshi says a lot of "Yoshi", but I don't remember Kirby saying anything, except "huh" ans stuff like that. WAIT. He says "bye" in his taunt...


Kirby says quite a few words in the Anime, don't know whether that's canon, but it's still a representation of Kirby's abilities. And I suppose Yoshi doesn't say too much. Hm, I think he says -
Nintendo
Hi
Bye
Hop! (When he jumps, though it could just be a sort of grunt)

Hm, so Yoshi doesn't talk all that much.
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Naner » 12.11.08 7:21am

Lazarius wrote:
Darth Naner wrote:
Laz wrote:They can say basic words, Kirby more than Yoshi.

Hmmm... Yoshi says a lot of "Yoshi", but I don't remember Kirby saying anything, except "huh" ans stuff like that. WAIT. He says "bye" in his taunt...


Kirby says quite a few words in the Anime, don't know whether that's canon, but it's still a representation of Kirby's abilities. And I suppose Yoshi doesn't say too much. Hm, I think he says -
Nintendo
Hi
Bye
Hop! (When he jumps, though it could just be a sort of grunt)

Hm, so Yoshi doesn't talk all that much.

But still, neither of them speak enough to be very involved in a dialog. I just remembered the Pokémon. They can say their own name. Nothing else.
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Lazarius » 12.11.08 7:33am

Might wanna fix yer quotes there buddy.
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Re: Necessary Changes to Next Smash Bros.

Postby Naner » 12.11.08 2:49pm

Lazarius wrote:Might wanna fix yer quotes there buddy.

Right... It's all the limited quotes' fault.
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