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Mother Brain's motives

Postby Venomaniac » 04.26.09 12:37am

Could someone please explain them to me?
I don't understand what her goals were in the manga at ALL
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Re: Mother Brain's motives

Postby Tentelumper » 04.26.09 2:13am

Venomaniac wrote:Could someone please explain them to me?
I don't understand what her goals were in the manga at ALL


Maybe she has no goals. Maybe she is formulating, testing, and using live 'subjects' so she can produce results, because she is a brain and her existence is to think. Or something. I don't like the manga, so if a character has no goals it's most likely because the writing team failed to create any.

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Re: Mother Brain's motives

Postby CapCom » 04.26.09 7:07am

Probably just plain ol' hate. Sentient supercomputers tend to hate other life forms because a) they aren't stuck to a wall and b) their genius is underappreciated. Just read "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream"
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Re: Mother Brain's motives

Postby Tentelumper » 04.26.09 9:52am

CapCom wrote:Probably just plain ol' hate. Sentient supercomputers tend to hate other life forms because a) they aren't stuck to a wall and b) their genius is underappreciated. Just read "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream"

Or you could read "AI is a crapshoot", which explains the problems of sentient robots or computers. All provided curtsy of TV Tropes.

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Re: Mother Brain's motives

Postby MaiAriSquee » 04.27.09 12:18am

...or you could read the manga, and see that she wants to do the whole "tear down the world and rebuild it from the ground up" thing, with her as the architect. She see's all other creatures as filthy animals who destroy themselves and each other. In her mind, she is the only truly "clean" and intelligent one, so she wishes to bring the galaxy to its knees, and then guide it into a new age.

She is also jealous of Samus, the chozo's "favored" child.

See here, and here, and this, up through page 19.

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Re: Mother Brain's motives

Postby Will Keaton » 04.27.09 12:06pm

Isn't it obvious? Mother Brain wasn't loved enough as a child and is now striking out against the galaxy because she feels abandoned. Thats why the Super-Rainbow-Beam at the end of Metroid 3 is so effective against her. It's like an uberpowerful version of the care-bear stare, fired through an arm cannon. The overwhelming sense of joy and happyness Mother Brain felt when struck by the Super-Rainbow-Beam caused her hear to grow 27 sizes that day, and subsequently explode inside her chest leading to epic internal hemoraging and decapitation. Finally after decades of being unloved her severed head was able to embrace the warm, gushy feeling that had eluded her for so long and wept tears of joy so powerful that they took with them every bit of moisture from within leaving her as little more than a pile of sand, finally free from her confinement she was, for the first time able to move freely on the winds and leave behind the cocoon of hate and anguish that Tourian had become. At last she finally knew true happiness. Then the planet blew up. >.<
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Re: Mother Brain's motives

Postby Steamlord » 06.17.09 10:00pm

Ignoring that last post...

MaiAriSquee wrote:...the whole "tear down the world and rebuild it from the ground up" thing...


That's pretty much the motive of every 'evil AI that was originally designed to be good and rational' ever. I wonder if it would even be possible to come up with another (good) reason for a good AI to turn evil?
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Re: Mother Brain's motives

Postby CapCom » 06.17.09 10:48pm

MaiAriSquee wrote:
...the whole "tear down the world and rebuild it from the ground up" thing...



That's pretty much the motive of every 'evil AI that was originally designed to be good and rational' ever. I wonder if it would even be possible to come up with another (good) reason for a good AI to turn evil?


Nah. You're forgetting AM. AM hated humans because they gave him near-unlimited intelligence yet he couldn't move about anywhere because he was wired to the earth as a giant supercomputer. So he initiated nuclear armageddon and kept the remaining humans inside his body so he could torture them for all eternity. Pretty fantastic. Anyway, hell won't last forever because the sun will burn out eventually and then AM wouldn't be able to power itself anymore.

BTW, "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" was the inspiration for Skynet.
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Re: Mother Brain's motives

Postby Steamlord » 06.17.09 10:55pm

Although if an AI is programmed not to harm humans, technically the only way it could do so is through logic (reasoning that everybody would be better off if it did). I just remembered, in Watchmen, it actually worked, which I always thought was genius (and also hilarious). Except there's that cliffhanger with Rorschach's journal...
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Re: Mother Brain's motives

Postby Black_Falcon » 01.28.11 1:44am

If you want to understand MBs motives its probably best to consider her existance.

1. She never moves. Ever.
2. While she can close her eye, she cannot look at anything with it that is not directly in front of her.
3. She is immensely powerful inside the matrix of her operating system.
4. She is intimately aware of how weak and feeble (to her at least), other intelligences must seem.
5. She was created by the chozo, and if I'm not mistaken, they later decided 'hey that was a stupid idea go pull the power cord'.

Wouldn't YOU be insanely pissed off at EVERYthing?

Also consider the other facts of her existence. As advanced as she is she is certainly aware of emotions, yet she could not speak to anyone regarding this because they would likely see it as some form of error in the program and try to reboot her. She has 'grown up', not in body but in mind, completely alone, and, in an act of rage she might not have fully understood, she lashed out at her caretakers and creators, killing the huge majority of them, thereafter condemning herself to an eternity of total loneliness in the depths of a planet. Can you imagine being as aware and intelligent as she is and never ever seeing the sun with your own eye? How about never knowing what its like to be a child?

I believe her to be a manic depressive nihilist who spends long periods in states of paranoid depression and at the best moments, sees little or no value at all in very much of anything.


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