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Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby KingBroly » 12.17.10 12:32am

I know there's a topic for Adam being good or evil out there, but I think it's fair to ask the same question for Melissa or MB.

Some highlights:
- Tells Samus of the traitor
- Tells Samus that Adam is evil, Sector Zero exists, and they're making :metroid: babies
- Goes insane, tries to kill Samus, Madeline
- Asserts herself after coming into contact with Metroids

Personally, I'm going to say that Melissa is good, but was struck down so her AI could remain living on, in the future...and will eventually become Samus' AI companion.
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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby Xscapist » 12.17.10 1:35am

To be fair, she didn't actually go insane...they were trying to lobotomize her. If someone wanted to lobotomize you, and you had that much power, what would you do? I think she also has trouble trusting anyone anymore, after watching someone she thought she could trust just stand by and watch while she was going to be dragged off.

Melissa = Victim acting in self-defense.

Adam = The deleter.

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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby Smoking Spoon » 12.17.10 2:45am

^ Yeah, I agree. Melissa was good. But good and bad is relative. If she thought that her own act were evil, then she was.

Except that :rmg: = The Deleter

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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby KingBroly » 12.17.10 2:55am

I think :adam: is evil, and will soon reveal each and every step along the way as to why that is, but for now, it's about MB/Melissa.

I find it interesting that only the women on the ship, including Samus from a certain point of view are the only ones who tell you anything from their own experiences, all of which are true.
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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby ddddd » 12.17.10 5:09pm

She made the creatures go in a frenzy and kill the entire crew of the station, not just the few fed officers who wanted to reprogram her.
She had to know that the metroids were unfreezable and sent Samus right into them.
And she wanted to "judge" every other human.

I wouldnt call her good, but not evil either. Im going with the insane option.

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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby Zeroº » 12.17.10 5:38pm

I'm going to stick with morally grey. Not all bad, not all good, easily pissed off, yet can come to her senses with enough work.

She's just... misunderstood.
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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby Smoking Spoon » 12.17.10 5:41pm

Zeroº wrote:She's just... misunderstood.

Just like Bowser, Ganondorf an Andross. ;)
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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby Trishbot » 12.17.10 7:04pm

Smoking Spoon wrote:
Zeroº wrote:She's just... misunderstood.

Just like Bowser, Ganondorf an Andross. ;)


Bowser is a liberator, freeing his oppressed Goombas and Koopas from the tyranny of the incompetent ruler, Princess Peach, and her racism against turtles.

Ganondorf was a charismatic leader that unified the warring factions of the Gerudo and, like most rulers forced to lead a civilization in squalor, decided to expand into the fertile lands of Hyrule through conquest.

And Andross... Andross has no body. He's a huge, disembodied head and pair of hands with bright, glowing weak spots on his hands. He never stood a chance at having a normal life... poor monkey man.

... but Melissa... hmm, I'd go with "neutral" in that she's obviously a dangerous threat that's done a lot of bad things, but those bad things weren't entirely unjustified and she may or may not be beyond redemption. I actually COULD see MB become an ally to Samus against the Federation if things got bad enough. She didn't seem to harbor any particular animosity towards Samus and even helped her out at times... but who knows? The game didn't exactly give us a clear-cut moral stance for Melissa. She's good when the game needs her to be good and evil when the game needs her to be evil, just like how other characters can teleport through locked doors and environmental hazards when the script calls for it.
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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby Doc Scratch » 12.17.10 7:06pm

I suppose now would be a bad time to say that Andross was once a perfectly normal anthromorphic ape.
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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby Troid » 12.17.10 7:36pm

It's one or the other?

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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby Smoking Spoon » 12.17.10 8:15pm

Trishbot wrote:
Smoking Spoon wrote:
Zeroº wrote:She's just... misunderstood.

Just like Bowser, Ganondorf an Andross. ;)


Bowser is a liberator, freeing his oppressed Goombas and Koopas from the tyranny of the incompetent ruler, Princess Peach, and her racism against turtles.

Ganondorf was a charismatic leader that unified the warring factions of the Gerudo and, like most rulers forced to lead a civilization in squalor, decided to expand into the fertile lands of Hyrule through conquest.

And Andross... Andross has no body. He's a huge, disembodied head and pair of hands with bright, glowing weak spots on his hands. He never stood a chance at having a normal life... poor monkey man.

... but Melissa... hmm, I'd go with "neutral" in that she's obviously a dangerous threat that's done a lot of bad things, but those bad things weren't entirely unjustified and she may or may not be beyond redemption. I actually COULD see MB become an ally to Samus against the Federation if things got bad enough. She didn't seem to harbor any particular animosity towards Samus and even helped her out at times... but who knows? The game didn't exactly give us a clear-cut moral stance for Melissa. She's good when the game needs her to be good and evil when the game needs her to be evil, just like how other characters can teleport through locked doors and environmental hazards when the script calls for it.

:D haha. Well, I was astonished to read the Zelda link to the past Instruction manual. In it, Ganondorf was a normal hylian ( I think they wrote human ), leader of a band of thieve. I don't recall the rest, but the band searched for the Triforce and Ganondorf found it and betrayed and killed all his acolyte, he then turned the Golden Land into a nightmarish place which he was King ( Dark World ). So some mage sealed him away in his plane. Later a mad man name Aghanim reopened a portal to this world. You can figure the rest ;) !

For Andross, I think he was a scientific for the Cornerian army. He had telekinetic power also. His ambition and project were a bit too rough so Coneria exiled him on Venom. In Star Fox Command, he was a very good person in fact, he wanted to help the galaxy by terraformorming Venom to become hospitable. But was judged insane.
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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby KingBroly » 12.17.10 8:25pm

Troid wrote:It's one or the other?

The Lit in me is crying.


It's a generalized question. If you want to go neutral, you can.
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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby cross307 » 12.18.10 8:01am

Trishbot wrote:
Smoking Spoon wrote:
Zeroº wrote:She's just... misunderstood.

Just like Bowser, Ganondorf an Andross. ;)


Bowser is a liberator, freeing his oppressed Goombas and Koopas from the tyranny of the incompetent ruler, Princess Peach, and her racism against turtles.


that could be actually true how else you could explain that everything escept for the toads what you dead.

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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby Troid » 12.18.10 11:54am

KingBroly wrote:It's a generalized question. If you want to go neutral, you can.
...So it's one of the three?

Actually, I'm not sure I understand the question/not sure it applies. What could qualify her as good? She killed a lot of people and was planning on killing more. But how could she be evil? She had reasons for doing what she did and, in the end, she chose to protect Madeline instead of going for the Feds or running. As for neutral, I'm not even sure what that means in this weird black-and-white context.
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Re: Melissa/MB: Good or Evil?

Postby mental » 12.19.10 4:02pm

I think MB crossed the line once she killed everyone on the ship and set it on a course toward the Federation homeworld with the intention of unleashing its payload of bioweapons on an innocent population.
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