Will they ever tell us?

[Faybro]

Holy shit you guys are looking too much into it. I know this is MDb, but, still, looking way too far. Let's get back on topic to the dead body. How do we know it's a he?

[Zeroº]

I'm pretty sure that suit was really just a robot with a gooey, caramel center.

Or some unfortunate treasure-hunter that met his (or her) fate while looking into the eye of the Door of Doom.

[CRtheMighty]

Holy shit you guys are looking too much into it. I know this is MDb, but, still, looking way too far. Let's get back on topic to the dead body. How do we know it's a he?

Oh, we're most definitely looking too much into it, that's half the fun.

You do bring up a good point, however, that we are extraordinarily off-topic. Perhaps we should create a thread specifically about how the devil the suit works.

Sylux, I'm with you expect that you keep saying "pocket dimension" which instantly turns me off the whole idea. Way too Star Trek. Chozo technology is more akin to magic than real science, so using pseudo-science to explain how things work always strikes me as a bit pointless. Chozo technology clearly uses some level of scientific comprehension so far in advance of humans that it really just boarders on magic.

Plus its a bit like when people explain how Link carries all his items around, or where Amy Rose hides her hammer.

The Power Suit is powered by CHOZO SUPER MAGIC SCIENCE and is directly linked to Samus. Both mentally AND physically. That's why Samus can summon it at will. No further explaination is required.

Okay, replace "pocket dimension" with "Narnia." The point is that the suit is being stored somewhere outside of normal space.

Science fantasy is a perfectly valid interpretation of the metroid universe, but my understanding of it is more of a "sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" type deal. Things like ghosts and telepathy are just a manipulation of natural laws that human science hasn't quantified, rather than being "supernatural" per se.

But, like I said, that's a question of personal interpretation.

You do bring up a good point, however, that we are extraordinarily off-topic. Perhaps we should create a thread specifically about how the devil the suit works.

There have already been several, I think.

Some time ago, a poster named Gra1n wrote a fic called "metroid tech discussion" which was basically Samus explaining how the suit worked in his fanon. I used to pretty much defer to his ideas, as they were quite good, but the more I think about it the more I'm considering writing up my own.

[Violet]

Okay, replace "pocket dimension" with "Narnia." The point is that the suit is being stored somewhere outside of normal space.

I guess I just don't like the idea of the suit somehow floating around on its own somewhere. Its meant to be connected to Samus. I think basically when Samus removes it via her will it simply ceases to exist. I mean, it is directly linked to her level of concentration. If she loses concentration, it fades away.

Alternatively, it actually exists at all times within her Zero Suit. Her Zero Suit and the Power Suit are one and the same thing. Not sure how well that idea holds up but its a thought.

Okay, replace "pocket dimension" with "Narnia." The point is that the suit is being stored somewhere outside of normal space.

I guess I just don't like the idea of the suit somehow floating around on its own somewhere. Its meant to be connected to Samus. I think basically when Samus removes it via her will it simply ceases to exist. I mean, it is directly linked to her level of concentration. If she loses concentration, it fades away.

That's basically what I said.

The suit IS connected to Samus. Samus has some extra bits attached to her that extend outside of space as we can perceive it. Those extra bits are attached to the suit.

Alternatively, it actually exists at all times within her Zero Suit. Her Zero Suit and the Power Suit are one and the same thing. Not sure how well that idea holds up but its a thought.

It did appear that way when she put it on at the beginning of Other M. However, it also makes the concentration thing less sensible, and doesn't explain the incompatible suit/body proportions that got this discussion started in the first place. I guess I'd be inclined to say that the zero suit is PART of the contraption, but not the whole thing.

But, honestly, Metroid canon is so inconsistent at this point that I'd say you're free to cherry pick whatever you want when it comes to making up fan explanations.

[DM-92]

I dont know who the solider is, but they did a great job of creating an atmosphere for fighting Kraid. That kind of 'there must be a crazy mo'fo behind that door' kinda thing

[Faybro]

I thought Samus' suit is stored like a memory inside her central nervous system? Brb, going to confirm.

EDIT: Nope. Let's get back to the dead guy.

[Smoking Spoon]

About the suit , Data would say " There is approximatively 16 654 401 explanations at the moment."
And that's my inner nerdz joke of the day .

Apart from being a bounty hunter ( which is most likely ) . Maybe... just a unlucky scavenger . That's funny because on my T.V , the corpse seemed to have no helmet . Like we see the top of his head with kind of orange blond hair. But now with no television distortion , I'm not sure... it look like jelly on his helmet.

[sockmonkey]

Heh, usually I'm the one jumping up and down flapping my arms screaming that it's got a pocket dimension so it's mostly my fault.
It does explain a lot though. There could be a whole power source the size of her ship in there keeping everything running.
I don't think it would be a whole universe though. Just a "bubble" in subspace to store all her chozo crap.
See, the reason I favor the PD over the energy conversion bit is because of the sheer amount of energy you can get when you totally convert matter. As in this chair I'm sitting in, if totally converted to energy would be enough to incinerate everything on this side of the continent.
E=MC2
Kinda hard to store that much no matter how good your batteries are.
Now if the suit's matter-energy conversion doodad can change one kind of matter directly into another then the suit could simply be assembled from air with no kaboom.

I never really bought into the whole vanishing when she stops concentrating thing. That's the dumbest feature you could possibly add to something meant for combat.
I always figured the Feds couldn't get the suit off because with both Samus and the suit being infected it simply glitched and locked up or something.

As for dead guy, for all we know he could have been there for years since a space/environmental/combat suit is going to be made of stuff that resists corrosion and decomposition. Maybe he was the first agent sent in and got killed or maybe he's some poor schmuck the pirates captured and were going to feed to Kraid when they ran out of mayo.

[mental]

In my fannon, the suit extends into a fourth spatial dimension; the pieces (anchored to the Zero Suit) simply rotate in and out of view. No pocket dimensions or subspace bubbles required.

(My latest fanfic series has a slightly more unsettling variation on this.)

[iam-comics]

Who is this? This has always bugged me. It looks like the same armour Samus uses, so I'm guessing it was a Chozo, which would also explain it's presence. But... It's just so easily forgotten by Nintendo. Does anybody have ideas as to who it is?

inb4ArmstrongHouston

If Kraid's Lair it's old enough, could be some Chozo hero from the past, as they must being fighting with the pirates or Kraid race from far ago... well, I don't know. I'm sleepy...

Another interesting topic!, thanks.


P.S: This could be a good comic (a rare one, preferably...)

[Will Keaton]

Forget pocket dimension. The chozo are masters of matter/energy conversion, just look at the metroids. Missles are stored as energy in her suit then coverted back into matter when they are fired. The same principle applies to her suit when not in use its converted to pure energy and stored within her body somewhere.

[TheBlackCat]

I always thought it was more of a strong mental link with the suit, as in that was how she controlled it. I never saw it as an anatomy thing

There is a mental component, definitely. But remember how the X were able to infect the suit in Fusion, which made it impossible for Samus to take it off?

It wasn't that Samus couldn't take it off, it was that Samus was unconscious and the doctors couldn't take it off with her in that state. That would be consistent with a mental link, although it could also be a security system to protect her when she is vulnerable.

As for the body, I always figured it was a random bounty hunter, and it looked like Samus because the artists were too lazy to make a new suit sprite.

[Thunderchin]

Okay, replace "pocket dimension" with "Narnia." The point is that the suit is being stored somewhere outside of normal space.

I guess I just don't like the idea of the suit somehow floating around on its own somewhere. Its meant to be connected to Samus. I think basically when Samus removes it via her will it simply ceases to exist. I mean, it is directly linked to her level of concentration. If she loses concentration, it fades away.

Alternatively, it actually exists at all times within her Zero Suit. Her Zero Suit and the Power Suit are one and the same thing. Not sure how well that idea holds up but its a thought.

The Zero Suit basically acts as an interface between Samus' central nervous system and the suit. I think it stores its upgrades as energy in capacitors within the Zero Suit (which explains why Samus kept her Energy Tanks at the end of Zero Mission.) These capacitors are basically storage when in Zero Suit, and Energy Tanks when the suit is in operation.

Metroid Tech Discussion was correct that the pieces of the suit are already there, or require slight additions, but the weapons DATA allows the suit to correctly utilize them. This explains why it takes a "Fully Powered" suit in order to use certain upgrades, because these suits have the correct parts in them to utilize the data.

One area I have questions about is Morph Ball. Obviously these capacitors can be used in reverse, to dematerialize Samus and condense the armor into a sphere. Control issues abound. Maybe Samus can control it from within her energy state. But how does she see? Retro cheated when Prime had the 3rd person camera for Morph Ball.

Pickups, and the ability of Samus to use the energy from the particles of the disintegrated Metroid at the end of Super/beginning of Other M, indicates that the skin of the suit itself can act as a superconductor to introduce outside energies. This acts in reverse to operate the repulsors in Space Jump (spin is basically just a propeller to keep forward motion), the electromagnetic field in Screw Attack, and this same system of energy management can also redirect internal power (such as in Concentration, when power from the Charge Beam is condensed into Missiles and the remainder is pumped into the Energy Tanks.) This also works with Phazon in Corruption. One possible reason Samus has been shown unable to charge her Energy Tanks off solar energy using this system is the inefficiencies of solar power (which is why Earth cars run off petroleum).

Theoretically speaking, Samus should be able to absorb heat and use it as energy to her advantage. This is probably how the Gravity Suit handles Lava. Its intense heat is the only thing hot enough to sufficiently keep recharging the shield which is being drained constantly in contact with Lava. The two forces (shield depletion and recharge) cancel out. Acid does NOT have the heat sufficient to power this system, so Samus takes damage from it still. The Gravity Suit, regardless of liquid, reconfigures the shield of the suit to be more streamlined. This way, the suit can cut right through water.

I won't even think of the Arm Cannon, as I have placed full faith and credit in Dustin Ellison's work, Arm Cannon Mechanics. (That's the name given in the paper itself. Credit on the site is given to Chris J. Gray.)

I will have to do more thinking to come up with explanations for things like Speed Booster and shit like that.

Peace, Thunderchin.