Retro's next game

[Dementis]

As much as I love the Prime trilogy... it's sort-of empty, and there is so much bloody confusion around it. I know we've just had the Trilogy, but this should be on the Wii's successor, and considering we've not had an announcement yet, that could still be years off. So, what should it be? A complete remake of the Trilogy. Answer our questions, remove things that contradict with the other games and such. Explain the new ship design in Corruption or totally replace it with the other ship. And add Kraid as a boss at least once. Keep the same interface over games and link the log book. Hell, you could link the games fully and have some of those energy cells from Corruption hidden in the other two games that can be used to unlock another energy tank on the G.F.S. Valhalla or something. And when we're done, let us go back to the planet. Infact, once you've completely beaten the game, let us go through all planets, from Tallon IV to the Pirate Homeworld (And give the pirate homeworld a name whilst you're at it). No more Trilogy, just have all in one game.

What do you think? Would you rather have a new game? Considering an idea like this wouldn't even be announced for about 6 years if it were to be made, it wouldn't really interfere with the other games. Or would you like Retro to work on a newer game?

[Not Authorised]

What? No!

What confusion? What contradictions? This is nitpicking on a very nit-picky level. The Prime Trilogy is fantastic, and there's no leap in technology that'd justify updating it. Now Metroid II Return of Samus, there's a game badly in need of a remake. I do hope those plucky lads working on one don't get a cease & decist right before completion.

[KingBroly]

The Prime Trilogy contradicts Sakamoto's canon because at the end of Corruption Samus gives Dane a Thumbs Up. Thumbs Down is canon, not Thumbs Up.

I don't think the Trilogy was confusing at all. It was pretty straight-forward. Not very Metroid-like at all because there was no mystery to it from a story standpoint.

[Dementis]

The Prime Trilogy contradicts Sakamoto's canon because at the end of Corruption Samus gives Dane a Thumbs Up. Thumbs Down is canon, not Thumbs Up.

I don't think the Trilogy was confusing at all. It was pretty straight-forward. Not very Metroid-like at all because there was no mystery to it from a story standpoint.

The 1st one kind of contradicts itself because the Leviathan hits Tallon IV 60 years before Samus gets there, and presumably the cradle is formed not too soon after, by which time the Metroids have yet to exist...

And I just think the prime series could be improved on. Even if this just popped from no where in 20 years, I'd like it to be revised. Think of it as The HeartGold/SoulSilver/FireRed/LeafGreen of the Metroid series.

I'm just saying, I don't think the Metroid series has much more time with the GFEDs as good guys, and I'd rather have one more game where they are the good guys. And had suits that looked awesome the first time you saw them, instead of you spending the first year before release trying to get used to the ugly purple shit.

[Not Authorised]

The Prime Trilogy contradicts Sakamoto's canon because at the end of Corruption Samus gives Dane a Thumbs Up. Thumbs Down is canon, not Thumbs Up.

I don't think the Trilogy was confusing at all. It was pretty straight-forward. Not very Metroid-like at all because there was no mystery to it from a story standpoint.

THUMB RAAAAAGE!!! I'll bitch about the baby plot any day, but the vs sub-plot was just...embarrasing. The way it's explained sounds like a fanfic. A bad one.

No mystery? Every game has Samus land on a foreign planet with no clue as to how it got so messed up. Then she gradually learns the history of the place, the source of its troubles, and then blows up the bad guys. Tallon IV and Aether are the best examples. In the first one Samus very soon finds a ruined Chozo city, which is a very big deal, and runs around it for a while without any clue as to why its abandoned. Then on Aether, she starts out with as little information as the federation marines about the mysterious shadowy enemies, though I'll admit that the moth-alien guy gives away the whole plot a little early for my taste. The overall trilogy plot has tons of mysteries, and if you dislike that the third game finally gives the answers, then you'd better cross your fingers that Metroid 5 doesn't asnwer the questions from Fusion and Other M.

[CapCom]

The Prime Trilogy contradicts Sakamoto's canon because at the end of Corruption Samus gives Dane a Thumbs Up. Thumbs Down is canon, not Thumbs Up.

Samus gave a thumbs-down at the end of briefings, NOT missions. She's a freelancer now, so she doesn't bother with thumbs-down anymore until she works again with Adam. For someone who spends a lot of time picking the game apart, I'd think that would be pretty obvious.

Me? I don't want to see another Prime game. It's a fun series, but the trilogy is done. Retro is not likely to be working on another Metroid either. My guess is we'll see another sidescrolling game, seeing as that's what they've got the engine for. I wouldn't count on Doki Doki Panic though, at least not yet... Nobody knows that IP. I'm also not convinced it will be another DKCR. Any other Nintendo franchises that need reviving?

[Dementis]

The Prime Trilogy contradicts Sakamoto's canon because at the end of Corruption Samus gives Dane a Thumbs Up. Thumbs Down is canon, not Thumbs Up.

Samus gave a thumbs-down at the end of briefings, NOT missions. She's a freelancer now, so she doesn't bother with thumbs-down anymore until she works again with Adam. For someone who spends a lot of time picking the game apart, I'd think that would be pretty obvious.

Me? I don't want to see another Prime game. It's a fun series, but the trilogy is done. Retro is not likely to be working on another Metroid either. My guess is we'll see another sidescrolling game, seeing as that's what they've got the engine for. I wouldn't count on Doki Doki Panic though, at least not yet... Nobody knows that IP. I'm also not convinced it will be another DKCR. Any other Nintendo franchises that need reviving?

Star fox? Ice climber? Balloon fight? A new donkey kong as in the original, and what the Mario VS Donkey Kong series strayed from terribly. Retro said they were only taking a break from the Metroid series though, and I'd much rather they do the next 3D one and have Sakamoto go back to 2D. It's so much better that way.

[Twilight-kun]

remake Metroid II
add a freakin' map
add charge beam
have items turn on/off
better graphics
new/enhanced/remixed music (seriously, the caverns were so...quiet, just clicks and beeps, Artoo might like it, but not me)

[defrost]

Why are so many here against ambiguity? If Retro Studios decides to work on another Metroid game, I would like them to continue from where they left off. Samus leaves Elysia and is being followed by a bluish air craft. Is the pilot friend or foe? I want to know how it all plays out in a new mission entry for the series. Though Retro Studios made an awesome sidescroller out of DKCR, I would like them to keep delivering first person experiences with Metroid.

[KingBroly]

Ambiguity is fine if it's tastefully and cleverly done to engage the user. Other M takes every major important plot point in the game and says 'oh, you have to figure it out.' A lot of the time it is done at the behest of Samus and comes off as extremely wreckless and therefore damaging.

Good example of ambiguity in Metroid: The Chozo Ruins scene in Zero Mission
Bad example of ambiguity in Metroid: The Ridley scene in Other M

While similar, there is a world of difference.

[pyroshadow]

I can only take fan-made M2 remakes for so long. Please, Retro, please remake M2. You're killin' me.

[defrost]

Ambiguity is fine if it's tastefully and cleverly done to engage the user.

Which I believe the Prime Series was able to succeed in, which is why I am wondering why the ambiguity in the Prime Series is bad, as that is what was implied in the topic post.

[Dryn]

Retro Studios is secretly working on a new Mr. Game & Watch game. They hinted this in DKCR at Foggy Fumes. You heard it from me, and from MDb first.

[RoyboyX]

Fucking remake M2 and don't overload it with so much bloody new content. Don't you guys agree? That's always the thing. In Mario games it's always the pink princess gets kidnapped by the turtle dragon and the fat red plumber along with his considerably skinnier green brother are supposed to save her. In Metroid there's always a mission with new music, new enemies, new everything.

Why can't they just reuse? I am a very conservative person, so I always try to add new elements to my fanfictions while still making references to old things. For example, in my Metroid: Avenger fanfic, Crocomire, Draygon and Kraid are all bosses and Botwoon is now a regular enemy. In MOM I was hoping for my Lower Norfair theme remix for Pyrosphere but I get something new! Phendrana for Cryo but it's something new! Even a bloody Sector 2 (TRO) remix would have satisfied me.

I bet Retro is going to decide to do M2. This is exactly what they'll say:

Random somebody: "You know, I've been thinking about a new Metroid game."
RS2: "But Carl, we were taking a break from it."
RS1: "It's been four years, that's long enough. We got out a new Donkey Kong Country. We need to satisfy a longtime fan request."
RS2: "Metroid Dread?"
RS1: "No, Metroid II."
RS2: "What's so special about that?"
RS1: "It's a pure diamond that's been sitting in the Nintendo library collecting dust. People have wanted a remake since the Game Boy Color version was canceled. Either they've been hacking the original to add color or they've been campaigning for an entirely new game or making one themselves. They want Metroid II remake, so, let's give them one!"

[Dragonheart91]

We really don't need a Nintendo made Metroid II remake anymore. AM2R is nearing completion now and should be out in early 2012. I can't imagine Nintendo creating a better remake than that anyway.