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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby HYRUL3 » 04.11.11 7:09pm

Chris wrote:In before KingBroly theory.


:umad:

He's right though. It's symbolic imagery.
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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby Chris » 04.12.11 4:53am

HYRUL3 wrote:
Chris wrote:In before KingBroly theory.


:umad:

He's right though. It's symbolic imagery.


I love him really <3

Yeah that's the term I was looking for, symbolic imagery. :thumbsup:

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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby HYRUL3 » 04.12.11 3:50pm

Chris wrote:I love him really <3

Yeah that's the term I was looking for, symbolic imagery. :thumbsup:


Oh me too. But every family needs a crazy cousin who has conspiracy theories.

And any time I can assist with terminology, I will. *bows*
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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby Thunderchin » 05.25.11 1:14pm

Dementis wrote:other smaller ships could be used for transport in and out.
Hopefully it's got its own transporter. Hell, with the size of that thing I'd be surprised if that thing had any less than 20 transporters.

So screw the shuttles! Just tap your combadge and request to be beamed down!

Chris wrote:In before KingBroly theory.

I hate KingBroly theories. I used to take them seriously, but that was before HYRUL3 pointed out the should-have-been-obvious trolling involved in the "The World Needs Metroid 5" thread.

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Anyways, back on topic. I always estimate ship size in relation to a Galaxy-Class flagship (such as a certain NCC-1701-D). The Olympus appears to be about half again the length, the same height, and about the same width as the Enterprise's saucer section. And finally, that ventral fin. I'm guessing the height of five saucer sections. (or 2.5 complete ships.)

Let's compare the Enterprise dimensions to the Olympus.
Length: 642.5 Meters x 1.5
Width: 467.0 Meters x 1
Height: 137.5 Meters x 1
Fin: 137.5 Meters x 2.5

Thus, the Olympus' dimensions are as follows:
Length = 963.75 Meters, or just shy of one kilometer.
Width = 467.0 Meters, a little short of half a kilo.
Height = 137.5 Meters, seems like an easy spacewalk to me!
And that damn fin comes out to be 343.75 Meters! That's nearly a third the whole freakin' ship!
Compared to these dimensions, Samus has barely explored five percent of the ship's corridors and rooms. (estimate)

Note: This was done entirely by viewer's estimation, and may not be accurate.
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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby HYRUL3 » 05.25.11 2:15pm

Thunderchin wrote:
Dementis wrote:other smaller ships could be used for transport in and out.
Hopefully it's got its own transporter. Hell, with the size of that thing I'd be surprised if that thing had any less than 20 transporters.

So screw the shuttles! Just tap your combadge and request to be beamed down!

Chris wrote:In before KingBroly theory.

I hate KingBroly theories. I used to take them seriously, but that was before HYRUL3 pointed out the should-have-been-obvious trolling involved in the "The World Needs Metroid 5" thread.

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Anyways, back on topic. I always estimate ship size in relation to a Galaxy-Class flagship (such as a certain NCC-1701-D). The Olympus appears to be about half again the length, the same height, and about the same width as the Enterprise's saucer section. And finally, that ventral fin. I'm guessing the height of five saucer sections. (or 2.5 complete ships.)

Let's compare the Enterprise dimensions to the Olympus.
Length: 642.5 Meters x 1.5
Width: 467.0 Meters x 1
Height: 137.5 Meters x 1
Fin: 137.5 Meters x 2.5

Thus, the Olympus' dimensions are as follows:
Length = 963.75 Meters, or just shy of one kilometer.
Width = 467.0 Meters, a little short of half a kilo.
Height = 137.5 Meters, seems like an easy spacewalk to me!
And that damn fin comes out to be 343.75 Meters! That's nearly a third the whole freakin' ship!
Compared to these dimensions, Samus has barely explored five percent of the ship's corridors and rooms. (estimate)

Note: This was done entirely by viewer's estimation, and may not be accurate.


These sound like pretty reasonable estimates. Good work.
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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby CapCom » 05.26.11 9:18am

No clue what the size of the Olympus is.

However, the VIXIV is 350m long (check the upper-left corner of the dev art).

You can get a more accurate guess of the size of the Olympus by looking at a spaceship flying close to it. We have a more or less accurate measurement of the fighter craft, so you can use that as a model. Actually, if you've got the model viewer, shouldn't there be an in-game model that puts both together?

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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby ChosenOne54 » 05.28.11 3:36pm

Another question I've been thinking about recently is: what weapons does the Olympus posses?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16fwgZGzLS0#t=1m55s

If you'll look there, it seems to have four rapid-fire beam cannons. But, it isn't seen using any other weapons is it? 4 beam canons isn't extremely fearsome firepower, so that can't be all it has.

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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby Thunderchin » 05.28.11 3:55pm

ChosenOne54 wrote:Another question I've been thinking about recently is: what weapons does the Olympus posses?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16fwgZGzLS0#t=1m55s

If you'll look there, it seems to have four rapid-fire beam cannons. But, it isn't seen using any other weapons is it? 4 beam canons isn't extremely fearsome firepower, so that can't be all it has.

Admiral Dane just didn't see the use of its concussion missile batteries worthy of his epic approval at that time.

If I remember its scans correctly, the Olympus was fitted with an Aurora Unit mainly to reduce the crew requirement of a ship its size. That scan explicitly notes that what space would have gone towards crew facilities was used for more weapons aboard ship. (Read: more magazines for the concussion missile batteries. Or bigger capacitors for the railguns to make them more powerful. Or more docking facilities for the Stiletto-Class Fighters.) Given the swarms of fightercraft deployed in that fight sequence, I'm guessing they are the Olympus' primary weapon. It is a flagship, not a combat vessel. It simply serves as a place for Dane to set up his flag as Admiral.

Where on the Olympus are the astromech droids kept? Are they autonomous, or puppets of AU 242's control? And do Stiletto fightercraft have sockets for them? (I sure hope at least Artoo and Threepio made it out alive!)

I also wonder who the captain of the Olympus is. The admiral is NEVER the captain of his flagship. That job befalls upon that ship's individual captain. The admiral is in command of ALL ships, as if they were one. (Which is why the admiral never goes down with his flagship. He's supposed to move his flag to another ship, while the captain goes down with his ship.) Who knows, maybe the Galactic Federation's command structure is different from the United Federation's command structure, which is different from the Galactic Republic's chain of command.
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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby ChosenOne54 » 05.28.11 4:22pm

Wait, but where was it stated that the Olympus had concussion missiles? Could you possibly provide a link?

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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby Thunderchin » 05.28.11 6:56pm

ChosenOne54 wrote:Wait, but where was it stated that the Olympus had concussion missiles? Could you possibly provide a link?

DOES THE WORD "FANON" MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU?!?!?!

Any reasonable ship builder ought to have some sort of guided missile technology. That's what I'm counting on.

(Granted, the Federation, as far as I have seen, isn't very reasonable. More like corrupt.)
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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby Dementis » 06.01.11 1:05pm

You're right. From what we've seen the GF favor ballistic weapons for their small size. The size of the plasma cannon + it's long recharge time in Other M is evidence that their fancy laser gun tech isn't that great.

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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby Chris » 06.01.11 2:47pm

That's a portable device though, I would assume their stationary weaponry would be much better.

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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby Thunderchin » 06.01.11 2:50pm

Chris wrote:That's a portable device though, I would assume their stationary weaponry would be much better.

It would be, but that would also make their stationary missile batteries better as well. So ballistic missiles are still better than the lasers used. (And they're said to be railguns, so I would assume a physical bullet is involved.)

Besides, they aren't stationary. Ships do move through space, you know...
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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby Dekutulla » 06.01.11 3:01pm

Thunderchin wrote:
ChosenOne54 wrote:Wait, but where was it stated that the Olympus had concussion missiles? Could you possibly provide a link?

DOES THE WORD "FANON" MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU?!?!?!

Any reasonable ship builder ought to have some sort of guided missile technology. That's what I'm counting on.

(Granted, the Federation, as far as I have seen, isn't very reasonable. More like corrupt.)


Well, the super large text is kind of obnoxious. It sounds like you're being both extremely loud, and somewhat condescending. But I'm sure that was completely unintentional, so I'm just telling you for future reference. Caps will do that. Also, it seems to me the GF only takes a turn for the worst towards the end of the series (Other M, Fusion), and up until then it seems fairly reliable.

Anyways, is it possible to Scale the Olympus against Samus's (Samus'? Samuses?) Gunship? I'm certain that there's a size for it somewhere. After that, you'd just have to put the models side by side and see how it is. Or extrapolate from the cutscene, which sounds a lot harder.
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Re: Size of GFS Olympus?

Postby Dementis » 06.06.11 12:56pm

Thunderchin wrote:
Chris wrote:That's a portable device though, I would assume their stationary weaponry would be much better.

It would be, but that would also make their stationary missile batteries better as well. So ballistic missiles are still better than the lasers used. (And they're said to be railguns, so I would assume a physical bullet is involved.)

Besides, they aren't stationary. Ships do move through space, you know...


I seriously hope you're not serious about that last bit. Weaponry on a form of transport of any kind is referred to as stationary as apposed to portable.

Another point I'd like to bring up is that the GFS Olympus is different from the GFS Valhalla. I mean, they're both Olympus-class star ships so why are there big differences in the ship? I mean, in the bay were the stiletto-class star ships are being fixed there are two doors (Excluding the bay doors). In the Olympus they lead to a Missile expansion room and an elevator to an external entrance (I think) respectively. On the Valhalla they lead to a control room that in turn leads to a room with (As far as I remember) a data log with fuel cell data and the other door leading to an area that I don't think ever appeared on the Olympus.

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