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Re: Brave

Postby RoyboyX » 07.03.11 6:46pm

Possibly how every human depicted is fat and small-boned? z:P I sit on my bootay all day editing Wikitroid, hovering here and monitoring lots of stuff.
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Re: Brave

Postby MaiAriSquee » 07.03.11 6:59pm

RoyboyX wrote:Possibly how every human depicted is fat and small-boned? z:P I sit on my bootay all day editing Wikitroid, hovering here and monitoring lots of stuff.

Well, you're not the result of a consuming society taken to its hyperbolic conclusion after hundreds of years in low gravity. :P
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Re: Brave

Postby RoyboyX » 07.03.11 7:05pm

Got me there.

What I want to know now is what in the hell a single arrow which, judging by the sound it makes, isn't that powerful, will kill a bear that is about 5 times the height of Everest? Maybe poke out its eye, but otherwise it'll just slap the arrow away. She's screwed. Perhaps she'll be the first Disney Princess to die?
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Re: Brave

Postby kronoridley » 07.04.11 2:53am

If that arrow is poisonous, then the bear is the one who is screwed.
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Re: Brave

Postby Mewtwo » 07.04.11 7:40am

RoyboyX wrote:Got me there.

What I want to know now is what in the hell a single arrow which, judging by the sound it makes, isn't that powerful, will kill a bear that is about 5 times the height of Everest? Maybe poke out its eye, but otherwise it'll just slap the arrow away. She's screwed. Perhaps she'll be the first Disney Princess to die?


Fuck, do you know anything about archery?
At that range, an arrow could easily punch through its skull or pierce its heart, if she has good aim. And if it 'pokes out its eye' then it'll skewer the brain too.
Unless its a ninja bear that magically catches arrows or something.

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Re: Brave

Postby Chris » 07.04.11 8:17am

Disney's last good film was Lion King in my opinion.

Agree about the making the lead characters looking goofy and stuff, Snow White, Aurora, Cinderella and Belle were all portrayed as beautiful young women and rightfully so, why shouldn't role models be slim? They're are enough fat kids out there as it is.

I also remember when was younger when each week me and my sister took it in turns to pick which video we watched, I hated her princess films but secretly wanted to grow up to be a prince and marry one of them, cant imagine the same will happen to young boys with this crap:

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Re: Brave

Postby RoyboyX » 07.04.11 9:26am

Merida looks okay, but she isn't fat. I just noticed however that Rapunzel does look like she has a bootay. Maybe they can put her in Smash 4 and we can look under her dress when she is knocked back to see... anyway, back on topic.

Also, I really do not know anything about archery in fact lol. I'm really not as attached to fantasy as I am science fiction, so naturally I feel as though weapons of the past and today are overshadowed by Chozo-type technology (wants me some of it). But yeah, maybe the arrow is poisonous.
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Re: Brave

Postby MaiAriSquee » 07.05.11 5:57pm

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Can't tell if trolling...
Chris wrote:... cant imagine the same will happen to young boys with this crap.

Young boys won't have impossible women to fantasize about in this film! Won't somebody think of the CHILDREN?? :creature:

And she hardly looks like crap... yikes, man.
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Re: Brave

Postby kronoridley » 07.06.11 2:53am

Considering it is a movie about princess who doesn't take sh*t, shouldn't the last thing we should care about be her looks?

Also, if said little boys see that the princess kicks a**, they will drool anyways. (Stupid little boys and their lack physical control! When I was young, I acted more mature than half of ya 13 year olders!)
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Re: Brave

Postby Chris » 07.06.11 7:26am

MaiAriSquee wrote:
Chris wrote:... cant imagine the same will happen to young boys with this crap.

Young boys won't have impossible women to fantasize about in this film! Won't somebody think of the CHILDREN?? :creature:


Impossible? My Dutch friend joking says she wants to work at Disney Land as a princess and she probably could, she would make a great Belle, she looks very similar and yet she has had no cosmetic surgery or has any eating disorders, she just looks after herself and was blessed with good looks. Just because the norm these days is to be overweight doesn't make the idea of been slim out of reach or impossible.

Whenever someone berates slim attractive women it just screams jealousy to me.

Before anyone starts jumping on me, I actually prefer curves on women and by that I don't mean fat chicks but healthy looking women.

The point still stands, this Brave films looks bit meh, I'm not the biggest fan of these CGI animations in general anyway. My main point with the 'fantasy' was that 20 years on I remember who those classic princesses are and what they look like thanks in part to their staggering beauty and gracefulness, I doubt even in 2 years I'll remember who this Merida is.

@Krono, you try too hard.

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Re: Brave

Postby Mewtwo » 07.06.11 12:12pm

The old films are classics because they just are, theres no debating that, but FUCK the old princesses are BORING
Like Snow White. That movie is bloody ridiculous. She falls in love with some man she sees from her window, and then goes and cooks and cleans for some dwarves, then gets rescued. Hooray. I could go on about the others, but Disney Princesses only really got interesting around the 90's.

And I reallly don't see how Merida/Rapunzel are fat... am I missing something o.o
If they are, then I'm bloody obese. Eh, I loved Tangled and am set to LOVE Brave. Because SCOTLAND and RANGAS and girls who actually can DO something!

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Re: Brave

Postby Chris » 07.06.11 1:43pm

Mewtwo wrote:And I reallly don't see how Merida/Rapunzel are fat... am I missing something o.o


Nope, no one said they were fat, just odd looking and goofy like most CGI depictions of princesses (and humans in general), then someone said they would rather have this Merida than a super thin chick as a role model to which I replied that past Disney princesses were just beautiful and graceful, nothing more, no sexualisation or anorexia to which I was told they are 'impossible women' because they are slim or something which is nonsense.

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Re: Brave

Postby MaiAriSquee » 07.06.11 1:45pm

Chris wrote:
MaiAriSquee wrote:
Chris wrote:... cant imagine the same will happen to young boys with this crap.

Young boys won't have impossible women to fantasize about in this film! Won't somebody think of the CHILDREN?? :creature:


Impossible? My Dutch friend joking says she wants to work at Disney Land as a princess and she probably could, she would make a great Belle, she looks very similar and yet she has had no cosmetic surgery or has any eating disorders, she just looks after herself and was blessed with good looks. Just because the norm these days is to be overweight doesn't make the idea of been slim out of reach or impossible.

Whenever someone berates slim attractive women it just screams jealousy to me.

Perhaps we're miscommunicating. Who here is berating REAL slim, attractive women? I'm referring to character designs. I'm not berating the use of slim and fit characters, and I'm not necessarily hating on Disney- Sleeping Beauty is one of my favorite animated films, despite Aurora's impossible waist.
Chris wrote: My main point with the 'fantasy' was that 20 years on I remember who those classic princesses are and what they look like thanks in part to their staggering beauty and gracefulness, I doubt even in 2 years I'll remember who this Merida is.

Merida isn't designed for you, a twenty-something(?) male to oggle. I feel as if this movie will be a hit with young girls who crave adventure and don't care about their appearance, like I did when I was a kid. I didn't give a crap about what I wore or how my hair looked when my friends and I were running through the woods, pretending to be native americans or dragons or just goofing around. Merida gives young girls a strong role model who doesn't necessarily look like a beauty queen, because no matter what you say, any standard of beauty set in animation- unless the style is more realistic (ala GitS)- will be impossible by nature of stylization. Granted, that means Merida is also impossible, which she is, but at least she looks more normal.

It's the same sort of issue you see in women's magazines. The ladies in those ads are shopped to the nines, including their anatomy. This impossible standard makes women- who the rest of us think are beautiful- feel inadequate.

And personally, I think Merida looks awesome.

When it comes right down to it, at least part of our issue seems to be a matter of taste.

cant imagine the same will happen to young boys with this crap:

Wait- I just noticed... you... you didn't just include Rapunzel in that statement, did you?! You ARE trolling, aren't you?
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Re: Brave

Postby Chris » 07.06.11 2:23pm

No comment XD

Yeah I see what you are saying now, guess we misunderstood each other, hard to tell the tone of the conversation with text. :thumbsup:

I know she isn't aimed at me, the other princesses weren't either though, Peter Pan and Aladdin were aimed at me at that age. Heh, just realised they weren't that many disney films aimed at boys compared to girls in my youth :'(

I still maintain CGI animations generally don't do it for me, they lack the charm of the oldies and the characters all look goofy to me which was my main point before I went way off tangent, sorry.

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Re: Brave

Postby kronoridley » 07.06.11 3:40pm

Chris wrote:@Krono, you try too hard.
I don't get it. please enlighten me.
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