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Chris

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by Chris » 09.18.11 7:30am
Still not sure why this has gone on for 7 pages. It's like questioning why the good guy with a hand pistol in a film manages to kills 6 people who all have assault rifles whilst never reloading, it's not important, the end result is all that is important, he killed 6 bad guys.
Like wise Adam stopping Samus heading into sector 0 guns blazing against unfreezable metroids as MB had hoped is all that is important.
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HYRUL3

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by HYRUL3 » 09.18.11 9:45am
Chris wrote:Still not sure why this has gone on for 7 pages.
So that people can present their absolutely ridiculous theories and boost their post count for over a page and a half. Going back to page 6, where it was last night, and then suddenly jumped to page 8, between two different people... Samus watched the Baby die by Mother Brain's beam. It affected her. Thats the entire point of the game. She walks into a chamber and sees an infant Metroid floating in front of her. She thinks about the Baby and it brings forward an emotional response. She knows she has to kill this Metroid. She raises her arm cannon hesitantly; she doesn't want to, but she knows she has to. And that hurts her. Right as she is about to kill it, she gets shot, shot while feeling all of these things that make her feel vulnerable. Sakamoto tried to make an emotionally powerful scene that was crippled by poor execution. There was no tiny ice shard.
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by Cen Silver » 09.18.11 10:24am
HYRUL3 wrote:Chris wrote:Still not sure why this has gone on for 7 pages.
So that people can present their absolutely ridiculous theories and boost their post count for over a page and a half. Going back to page 6, where it was last night, and then suddenly jumped to page 8, between two different people... Samus watched the Baby die by Mother Brain's beam. It affected her. Thats the entire point of the game. She walks into a chamber and sees an infant Metroid floating in front of her. She thinks about the Baby and it brings forward an emotional response. She knows she has to kill this Metroid. She raises her arm cannon hesitantly; she doesn't want to, but she knows she has to. And that hurts her. Right as she is about to kill it, she gets shot, shot while feeling all of these things that make her feel vulnerable. Sakamoto tried to make an emotionally powerful scene that was crippled by poor execution. There was no tiny ice shard. Whoah... You sure know how to be a fun breaker...
Other M could have gotten away with all of it's huge load of crap, but taking away the from a game with such orgasmic graphics was too much. 
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HYRUL3

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by HYRUL3 » 09.18.11 10:29am
No, I present fact and logic. There was absolutely no evidence to support an ice shard flying into her thruster.
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by Dryn » 09.18.11 11:37am
HYRUL3 wrote:Right as she is about to kill it, she gets shot, shot while feeling all of these things that make her feel vulnerable.
She also knew it was Adam who shot her.
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by YamI » 09.18.11 11:40am
HYRUL3 wrote:No, I present fact and logic. There was absolutely no evidence to support an ice shard flying into her thruster.
This. See, what I was posting was that there was no evidence of the thrusters involved in this. See, I never mentioned anything about the thrusters, therefore, my logic is partly right. But her being vulnerable, that could happen, it happens to people in life.
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HYRUL3

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by HYRUL3 » 09.18.11 11:46am
Cen Silver wrote:HYRUL3 wrote:No, I present fact and logic. There was absolutely no evidence to support an ice shard flying into her thruster. So what? Didn't you ever hear of imagination?
Imagination is all well and good. Don't get me wrong. But that's one of the most far fetched explanations imaginable, and do you really expect a wide audience to sit there and gobble that up? Its just poor writing for something so trivial to have such a large effect.
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by Cen Silver » 09.18.11 12:10pm
HYRUL3 wrote:Cen Silver wrote:HYRUL3 wrote:No, I present fact and logic. There was absolutely no evidence to support an ice shard flying into her thruster. So what? Didn't you ever hear of imagination?
Imagination is all well and good. Don't get me wrong. But that's one of the most far fetched explanations imaginable, and do you really expect a wide audience to sit there and gobble that up? Its just poor writing for something so trivial to have such a large effect. Yea, OK... So not exactly an ear candy, but so much for the "Vulnerability" anyway...
I already explained previously why i think the whole "Emotional vulnerability" thing is also bull, so unless you can come up with a better theory, i call it a 5 - 5...
(And no, we're not keeping scores here, it's just a manner of speak.)
Other M could have gotten away with all of it's huge load of crap, but taking away the from a game with such orgasmic graphics was too much. 
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by HYRUL3 » 09.18.11 12:32pm
How is it bull if the developer, Yoshio Sakamoto, wrote the suit as being a "second skin" to Samus that requires a mental connection?
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by Cen Silver » 09.18.11 1:01pm
HYRUL3 wrote:How is it bull if the developer, Yoshio Sakamoto, wrote the suit as being a "second skin" to Samus that requires a mental connection? Because as far as i know it is a COMBAT suit, therefore "Phsicological Stability" REALLY woudn't be a wise power source for it, or else (For example) if an ing (Example for ANY big enough creature, which let's face it, wasn't exactly just a few of all of the creature samus already met) hit her hard enough on Dark Aether (example for ANY hostile environment, wich also wasn't few of all of those she already were in), she would not only fly off AND lose counsciousnes, but also would have her suit turned off and therefore be completely exposed to both the atmospherical crippling efects of dark aether AND the ing Both of wich would kill her in seconds even on their own.
So yeah... call me crazy, but IMO it just sounds REALLY stupid.
Other M could have gotten away with all of it's huge load of crap, but taking away the from a game with such orgasmic graphics was too much. 
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by Qazz777 » 09.18.11 1:39pm
Cen Silver wrote:HYRUL3 wrote:How is it bull if the developer, Yoshio Sakamoto, wrote the suit as being a "second skin" to Samus that requires a mental connection? Because as far as i know it is a COMBAT suit, therefore "Phsicological Stability" REALLY woudn't be a wise power source for it, or else (For example) if an ing (Example for ANY big enough creature, which let's face it, wasn't exactly just a few of all of the creature samus already met) hit her hard enough on Dark Aether (example for ANY hostile environment, wich also wasn't few of all of those she already were in), she would not only fly off AND lose counsciousnes, but also would have her suit turned off and therefore be completely exposed to both the atmospherical crippling efects of dark aether AND the ing Both of wich would kill her in seconds even on their own.
So yeah... call me crazy, but IMO it just sounds REALLY stupid.
Weather it sounds stupid to you or not doesn't really matter, especially sense the creators have said that's how it works.
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by Cen Silver » 09.18.11 1:54pm
Qazz777 wrote:Cen Silver wrote:HYRUL3 wrote:How is it bull if the developer, Yoshio Sakamoto, wrote the suit as being a "second skin" to Samus that requires a mental connection? Because as far as i know it is a COMBAT suit, therefore "Phsicological Stability" REALLY woudn't be a wise power source for it, or else (For example) if an ing (Example for ANY big enough creature, which let's face it, wasn't exactly just a few of all of the creature samus already met) hit her hard enough on Dark Aether (example for ANY hostile environment, wich also wasn't few of all of those she already were in), she would not only fly off AND lose counsciousnes, but also would have her suit turned off and therefore be completely exposed to both the atmospherical crippling efects of dark aether AND the ing Both of wich would kill her in seconds even on their own.
So yeah... call me crazy, but IMO it just sounds REALLY stupid.
Weather it sounds stupid to you or not doesn't really matter, especially sense the creators have said that's how it works. You are missing the point... We're not discussing what the story truly meant, but the credibility of it... Not Authorised wrote:...there's any way to explain away this incredibly poorly introduced weapon. How does there exist a gun that can basically kill a fully armored Samus Aran in two shots? If that technology exists, how are we to take any future villains and boss fights seriously? Or was the suit just infected with crippling cutscene incompetence?
Other M could have gotten away with all of it's huge load of crap, but taking away the from a game with such orgasmic graphics was too much. 
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Chris

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by Chris » 09.18.11 2:06pm
Does it really matter is what the rest of us are trying to say...
There are such things in most games and movies.
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