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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby rondus18 » 10.18.11 3:09pm

Doc Scratch wrote:The pirates are clearly a multi-species group in the Prime series. Otherwise, their physical dimorphism makes no sense, and I'm not just meaning the differences between games (Which, if you take them as canon, make the Prime games the best showing of pirate diversity evah). Compare a Pirate Commando and a Pirate Trooper in Echoes, or a Beam Trooper and a Pirate Trooper in Prime.

Let me introduce you to a species that you might find interesting:

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We also know they experiment on themselves and create mutants like the Elite Pirates. So I don't see why they couldn't all be the same species.
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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby Doc Scratch » 10.18.11 9:07pm

rondus18 wrote:
Doc Scratch wrote:The pirates are clearly a multi-species group in the Prime series. Otherwise, their physical dimorphism makes no sense, and I'm not just meaning the differences between games (Which, if you take them as canon, make the Prime games the best showing of pirate diversity evah). Compare a Pirate Commando and a Pirate Trooper in Echoes, or a Beam Trooper and a Pirate Trooper in Prime.

Let me introduce you to a species that you might find interesting:

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We also know they experiment on themselves and create mutants like the Elite Pirates. So I don't see why they couldn't all be the same species.
Dogs are a poor example; although they have great physical variety, they all follow the same basic body plan, unlike the pirates. Cybernetic enhancement is admittedly probably the reason, since all the pirates in the Prime games have extensive modifications.

However, the Space Pirates still have Ridley and the three hunters from Prime 3, so it's not like they're unwilling to employ other species in the Prime games.

I think the ki-hunters really need a redesign. Other M's depiction of them might as well have been war-wasps, not some interesting side-species to the pirates.
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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby rondus18 » 10.18.11 9:27pm

Doc Scratch wrote:However, the Space Pirates still have Ridley and the three hunters from Prime 3, so it's not like they're unwilling to employ other species in the Prime games.

I don't think the Pirates had any say in letting the hunters join what with the whole Dark Samus phazon mind control thing.
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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby Ether101 Prime » 10.21.11 7:38am

ddddd wrote:This makes no sense at all. They outsmarted the pirates with their artifacts by decades before they arrived to the planet. They imprisioned the source of the phazon to make its corruption minimal. They knew a more capable combatant was going to come and prepared the planet for that...


Except that there's nothing to suggest that the Chozo thought that Samus was a more "capable combatant" let alone proof that she's better then all the Chozo there combined.

After the meteor was sealed in floating rock why wouldn't the Chozo got the extra mile and destroy it? They already have it at their mercy.

The GFed was stupid enough to not check Zebes, DURING MORE THAN 20 YEARS. And since all of the planets in the system are basically wastelands with mortal ambient for most foreign living things, is not that unreasonable to think of the Feds not bothering much there.


What 20 year period are you talking about? And we do know that the GFeds did check Zebes as that's how Samus got that ship back.

Im hoping you have more reasons than that flashy short cutscene do you?


That one poorly thought out cutscene is a far better reason for calling her an idiot compared to what some people on this and other sites use.

Clearly the Feds liked bullets so much that they kept using them for many years after, when they decided to send 6 men to explore an abandoned station armed with conventional rifles, and then more soldiers went into said station with more bullets to kill a certain android.


You seem to not understand, Sakamoto has made it clear that he's trying not to contradict the Prime games. If Retro had actually taken the time to do their research then maybe they would have noticed that the Feddies used more powerful weapons then they gave them in Echoes.

They have been studing phazon for more than 3 years, it is obvious that they must have developed new and more powerful tech as of then thanks to that.


Except we're not talking about phazon based tech.

And it is blatanty obvious that they ARE NOT more powerful than the Feds yet, they are a very small science team on Aether that even didnt attacked the stranded GF Anhur team.


It's blatantly obvious that they are by the sheer virtue that the Ing choose not to capture them alive.

It is perfectly posible for one man in the galaxy to be that naive. There are other soldiers that do know very well about that, including the one that just told this guy about it.


No, it was the entire unite that didn't believe that Samus was real. That's why its implied that the lady kept trying to convince the rest of her squad that Samus was real.

Well, having studying phazon for 4 years by now and with unlimited resources can help... The Feds were able to make fully functional PED suits in a few months of study (most worked flawlesly, four of them not so much). And the FEDs still were able to obliterate all the ofensive forces on the Homeworld and Norion.


In Corruption, the Fed Marines are like the SWAT team from CSI: Miami, completely useless unless the protagonist is there to guide them.

There is nothing to suggest that these pirates are the only ones existing in the universe.


That's why the game makes it clear that it's THE Space Pirate home world. The way the game acts as if its the only one in existence. Retro's comments on the matter doesn't help the matter either. There's a reason why Nintendo had to clear this mess up in the first place.

Well, clearly that is not what happened in the actual story...


Except it's exactly what happened, facts where established and Retro ignored them.

And for the record, it hasnt been stablished how much time passes since corruption to metroid 2.


But one of the things explained by Sakamoto was the reason for the Space Pirates being on the BLS. Corruption completely ignores that explanation.

Yeah, Retro should have gotten a time machine so they could ask Sakamoto 5 years later how he was going to make the story of Other M...... The story of Other M didn even exist by the time Corruption launched, HOW COULD THEY KNOW WTF WAS SAKAMOTO GOING TO DO???


And that has what to do with a fact established in Fusion?

If they have, then they should have used these capabilities in Zero Mission.


Why, the two situations were completely different from one another. As dangerous as the metroids are, they're still controllable were Phazon isn't. Then there's the fact that Zebes is a Chozo plant and probably has great historical significance to the Federation.

Also by you're logic, the Feddies couldn't have bunker busters as well because their never mentioned even thou that wouldn't make a lick of sense. The point is that you can't say that something doesn't exist just because it hasn't been mentioned.

And it is more than obvious that the Feds wouldnt want to get rid of planets (with plenty of resources to use, and doing that would end up with them losing their expensive research space stations in the process), just eliminate the threats to them.


There's this thing that some people like to call The Godzilla Threshold and the Pirates' plan would have to cross it and when that happens the singularity weapons and antimatter bombs would be authorized.

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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby R7038 XX » 10.21.11 7:57pm

Add all metroid species :lightsuit:

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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby Toxsyl » 10.21.11 10:24pm

I want the removed bosses and screw attack in the game and it would be a 21 out of 10 instead of a 20 out of ten game.
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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby Obviously » 10.22.11 1:22pm

Toxsyl wrote:I want the removed bosses and screw attack in the game and it would be a 21 out of 10 instead of a 20 out of ten game.


I was going to say remove the artifact hunt in Prime 1 as it's the only thing that made the game less than perfect for me but I like your idea better.

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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby Emperor Ing » 10.22.11 10:08pm

I believe the lore mentions that the only thing the Chozo COULD do with the Leviathan on Tallon IV was seal it away so as to minimize the damage it would do.

The Chozo could make it so the Phazon couldn't overly (and quickly) corrupt the planet. But the Phazon was too much for them- it had corrupted them, and they were too weak at this point to stop it. That's why all of Tallon IV was set up in such a way that when Samus came there, the Chozo left everything at her disposal to destroy the Phazon, the Leviathan Core, and its guardian, Metroid Prime.
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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby Toxsyl » 10.23.11 11:35am

The artifact hunt is fun in my opinion
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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby YamI » 10.23.11 12:25pm

Toxsyl wrote:The artifact hunt is fun in my opinion


I thought it was horrible. The only thing good about that, is that they kept the idea in MP2, and made them keys instead.
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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby Toxsyl » 10.23.11 12:57pm

YamI wrote:
Toxsyl wrote:The artifact hunt is fun in my opinion


I thought it was horrible. The only thing good about that, is that they kept the idea in MP2, and made them keys instead.

I'm sorry that was retarded you rather hunt for those pain in the ass keys instead of the artifacts?
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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby YamI » 10.23.11 1:00pm

Toxsyl wrote:
YamI wrote:
Toxsyl wrote:The artifact hunt is fun in my opinion


I thought it was horrible. The only thing good about that, is that they kept the idea in MP2, and made them keys instead.

I'm sorry that was retarded you rather hunt for those pain in the ass keys instead of the artifacts?


Yes. Atleast you actually had to have certain good items to get them. in Metroid Prime, once you had Super missiles, you could get all of them, even Newborn.
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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby kronoridley » 10.23.11 1:02pm

I am getting sick and tired of people complaining about the artifacts.............

You could sidetrack them very early on in the game! It removed all elements of tediousness and made the main adventure even more fun! If the game allows you to do that, than it is your fault that it "slowed the pace of the game" because you didn't bother to collect them as part of the main adventure! Christ!

*tries to calm down*
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At least from the perspective of the Space Pirates.

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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby YamI » 10.23.11 1:04pm

kronoridley wrote:I am getting sick and tired of people complaining about the artifacts.............

You could sidetrack them very early on in the game! It removed all elements of tediousness and made the main adventure even more fun! If the game allows you to do that, than it is your fault that it "slowed the pace of the game" because you didn't bother to collect them as part of the main adventure! Christ!

*tries to calm down*


I always waited, and got the Phazon suit before getting any of them, and I got the one in the Chamber, last.
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Re: If you could change ONE THING about the Prime series...

Postby Chris » 10.23.11 3:07pm

kronoridley wrote:I am getting sick and tired of people complaining about the artifacts.............

You could sidetrack them very early on in the game! It removed all elements of tediousness and made the main adventure even more fun! If the game allows you to do that, than it is your fault that it "slowed the pace of the game" because you didn't bother to collect them as part of the main adventure! Christ!

*tries to calm down*


Except you don't know this the first time you play...

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