Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console

by **CapCom** » 11.24.11 12:05pm

So... Is anyone picking this up? I'm considering it, even though I have like four copies of the game (two Japanese carts, the original, and the Greatest Hits).

by **VGMStudios** » 11.24.11 3:45pm

I dont believe I have the greatest hits one...
Hummm :ai:

OT we need a "Hummm" thinking icon....

oh and no Im not. If I want to play it Ill use the EMU or the actual cart.

VGM out...

by **Naner** » 11.24.11 7:23pm

VGMStudios wrote:EMU

Emulator? You'd rather play on an emulator than Virtual Console? You sick, sick man. And you call yourself a Metroid collector, too!

I'll get mine when I have time to play it. Probably January.

by **RoyboyX** » 11.24.11 9:18pm

*Harley Quinn voice*I GOT IT! I GOT IT!*end Harley Quinn voice*

So I now have it for VBA, the actual cartridge (which I bought from a store in a small town after bribing my father) and now 3DS. Yay!

by **CapCom** » 11.25.11 12:01am

Well, I checked out the store. They've got a nice little description of it (though some of the text is a little wacky...). There's three screenshots (showing the last boss, of course... o_O

) and a video with some nice footage. $3.99 too...

How's it play? I know the circle pad made playing Metroid pretty worthless...

I figure I'll have to get it sooner or later to do a review, as much as I'd rather not buy yet ANOTHER copy... Right now, I think if you already have the game, the only reason to get it would be if your battery is dead (both my Japanese copies have corrupted data, but I have yet to test if the save files actually work).

by **Opium** » 11.25.11 1:00am

Naner wrote:
VGMStudios wrote:EMU
Emulator? You'd rather play on an emulator than Virtual Console? You sick, sick man. And you call yourself a Metroid collector, too!

I'll get mine when I have time to play it. Probably January.

Emu is way better than console for some of the metroid games, esp when there are patches which improve graphics and colors - not to mention full rom hacks.

by **Chris** » 11.25.11 4:28am

I'll get it when they remake it.

by **Naner** » 11.25.11 6:28am

Opium wrote:
Naner wrote:
VGMStudios wrote:EMU
Emulator? You'd rather play on an emulator than Virtual Console? You sick, sick man. And you call yourself a Metroid collector, too!
Emu is way better than console for some of the metroid games, esp when there are patches which improve graphics and colors - not to mention full rom hacks.

But then you're playing a ROM hack, not the game itself. For those of us who weren't around in 1991 to get the game on a big Game Boy, Virtual Console is the way to go.

by **VGMStudios** » 11.25.11 9:09am

Naner wrote:
VGMStudios wrote:EMU
Emulator? You'd rather play on an emulator than Virtual Console? You sick, sick man. And you call yourself a Metroid collector, too!

I'll get mine when I have time to play it. Probably January.

what does me having to play a metroid game with an EMU have to do anything with my collecting?
Do you have some vendetta against EMU or are you just trying to promote VC?
Besides, whats the point of collecting virtual games? They aren't tangible, therefore aren't worth anything. Its virtual... >_>

VGM out...

by **Naner** » 11.25.11 10:10am

Any real Metroid collector would try to get every game in all forms they can, even virtual.

And it's a little bit of both. I'm no big fan of emulation, and I do think Virtual Console is a great idea and should be supported.

I'm just teasing you, by the way.

by **CapCom** » 11.25.11 11:21am

Naner wrote:I'm no big fan of emulation...

That's kind of ironic, because the Virtual Console IS emulation!

Anyway, who's emulation is better is kind of redundant - one's official, the other's not. The unofficial emulation will also have more bells and whistles than the official because Nintendo is specifying how you will play their games. That's all there is, and it's really off-topic.

More on-topic would be how it plays on 3DS

by **Opium** » 11.25.11 3:51pm

I was going to get it just to give a donation to say that metroid was still popular, but then I saw it wasn't even in color. Even my old cartridge can be played in color, so I'm not sure why they insist on putting it out in the greenish-peeish background with only black and grey colors.
I haven't played it that way since it was new, and I really have no desire to play it that way again.

by **CapCom** » 11.27.11 1:33am

Even my old cartridge can be played in color, so I'm not sure why they insist on putting it out in the greenish-peeish background with only black and grey colors.

Yeah, so I got a copy. It's in black and white and MUCH cleaner than an original GB or Pocket can produce. Actually, it's FAR cleaner than even the SP. You can't get the game to display this good in black and white unless maybe on the GB Player or emulator (and even then, the 3DS screen is really good). But yeah, lack of color functionality is a big minus for GB emulation. They could have very easily implemented it as an option. I think they made the VC just like 'This is how the GB was meant to be.' It would just be like Nitnendo to charge for color functionality...

The audio I think is the biggest jump - it's in stereo the GB output in that actually, but the console has a mono speaker so you could only hear it with headphones. You can really tell where the sound channels were blocked out due to SFX overload (like during the earthquakes).

The analog stick is ok to control for the most part, but it is simply not accurate enough when you are using Spider Ball (which was a pain to use in the original). Basically, if you roll into a corner and Spider Ball, you have to be VERY precise with the analog stick to get rolling anywhere. It also does feel a bit unnatural if you've just played with the D-pad. D-pad though is not balanced with the analog stick, so it's more tiring on the thumb. Actually, the ABXY buttons are a little small and hard, so that will wear your hands out, too! Lastly, and worst, the placement of the Start button as JUST Start is a pain - it's too far away from your right thumb to be of any use, and you kind of need it to save. Breaks concentration to use that function, so that's a minus. Thankfully, Select was set to Y, but I don't see why they couldn't have let you change the button mapping or made X Start...

Emulation is pretty much 100%, though I have to verify the audio via line-in recordings and compare it with my other recording tests (as well as emulation). It's got a save state functionality - just one save, can load as many times as needed though, so it's great for saving before bosses or a hard part. Nintendo at least knows how gaming has changed!

Oh yeah, the game is $3.99 plus 16 cents tax. And you can't pay JUST $4.15, like all the other services (except Steam!) you have to buy credits in amounts of $5, $10, $20, or $50. Having 85 cents floating around in Nintendo's bank doesn't make me very happy. At least I am still interested in X-Scape.

by **Zadra** » 11.27.11 3:44am

I bought it as soon as it was put up, in the midst of my turkey cooking. I can play it on my gameboy if I really want to, but its a lot more convenient to have it on my DS. Metroid 2 is probably one of my favorites, and I've ONLY PLAYED IT ONCE... which is silly considering I've replayed a lot of other Metroid games. I really wanted to replay this game, and I think that few dollars was totally worth it.

by **garbin** » 11.27.11 4:59am

CapCom wrote:Oh yeah, the game is $3.99 plus 16 cents tax. And you can't pay JUST $4.15, like all the other services (except Steam!) you have to buy credits in amounts of $5, $10, $20, or $50. Having 85 cents floating around in Nintendo's bank doesn't make me very happy. At least I am still interested in X-Scape.

Last of the big spenders!?

Just be happy in the knowledge that the interest that Nintendo is making on your 85 cents is probably going to be funding the development of the next Metroid game

Good review by the way.

CapCom Posts: 2424 Joined: 05.04.07 12:08pm Location: Section-Z Website	Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by CapCom » 11.24.11 12:05pm So... Is anyone picking this up? I'm considering it, even though I have like four copies of the game (two Japanese carts, the original, and the Greatest Hits). The sleep of Reason produces monsters. "Until next time..." Captain Commando
VGMStudios Posts: 1977 Joined: 06.03.07 7:14pm	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by VGMStudios » 11.24.11 3:45pm I dont believe I have the greatest hits one... Hummm OT we need a "Hummm" thinking icon.... oh and no Im not. If I want to play it Ill use the EMU or the actual cart. VGM out... Super Metroid, the most perfect game ever created! Period!
Naner Posts: 6458 Joined: 05.23.07 3:29pm Location: Brazil http://steamcommunity.com/id/RenanGreca/ Website https://twitter.com/darthnaner	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by Naner » 11.24.11 7:23pm VGMStudios wrote:EMU Emulator? You'd rather play on an emulator than Virtual Console? You sick, sick man. And you call yourself a Metroid collector, too! I'll get mine when I have time to play it. Probably January. Tianna wrote:Naner, you rock. My Facebook Shinesparkers
RoyboyX Posts: 517 Joined: 01.09.10 5:12pm Location: Tallon IV	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by RoyboyX » 11.24.11 9:18pm Harley Quinn voiceI GOT IT! I GOT IT!end Harley Quinn voice So I now have it for VBA, the actual cartridge (which I bought from a store in a small town after bribing my father) and now 3DS. Yay! "Yeah, right, trying to trick me again. Well, Harley Quinn is nobody's fool, anymore." I really love Wikia, FOX and Nintendo. Really... -_-
CapCom Posts: 2424 Joined: 05.04.07 12:08pm Location: Section-Z Website	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by CapCom » 11.25.11 12:01am Well, I checked out the store. They've got a nice little description of it (though some of the text is a little wacky...). There's three screenshots (showing the last boss, of course... ) and a video with some nice footage. $3.99 too... How's it play? I know the circle pad made playing Metroid pretty worthless... I figure I'll have to get it sooner or later to do a review, as much as I'd rather not buy yet ANOTHER copy... Right now, I think if you already have the game, the only reason to get it would be if your battery is dead (both my Japanese copies have corrupted data, but I have yet to test if the save files actually work). The sleep of Reason produces monsters. "Until next time..." Captain Commando
Opium Posts: 646 Joined: 01.10.10 9:46pm Location: Littleton, CO USA	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by Opium » 11.25.11 1:00am Naner wrote: VGMStudios wrote:EMU Emulator? You'd rather play on an emulator than Virtual Console? You sick, sick man. And you call yourself a Metroid collector, too! I'll get mine when I have time to play it. Probably January. Emu is way better than console for some of the metroid games, esp when there are patches which improve graphics and colors - not to mention full rom hacks.
Chris Posts: 1407 Joined: 12.16.10 5:07am Location: Leeds Website	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by Chris » 11.25.11 4:28am I'll get it when they remake it.
Naner Posts: 6458 Joined: 05.23.07 3:29pm Location: Brazil http://steamcommunity.com/id/RenanGreca/ Website https://twitter.com/darthnaner	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by Naner » 11.25.11 6:28am Opium wrote: Naner wrote: VGMStudios wrote:EMU Emulator? You'd rather play on an emulator than Virtual Console? You sick, sick man. And you call yourself a Metroid collector, too! Emu is way better than console for some of the metroid games, esp when there are patches which improve graphics and colors - not to mention full rom hacks. But then you're playing a ROM hack, not the game itself. For those of us who weren't around in 1991 to get the game on a big Game Boy, Virtual Console is the way to go. Tianna wrote:Naner, you rock. My Facebook Shinesparkers
VGMStudios Posts: 1977 Joined: 06.03.07 7:14pm	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by VGMStudios » 11.25.11 9:09am Naner wrote: VGMStudios wrote:EMU Emulator? You'd rather play on an emulator than Virtual Console? You sick, sick man. And you call yourself a Metroid collector, too! I'll get mine when I have time to play it. Probably January. what does me having to play a metroid game with an EMU have to do anything with my collecting? Do you have some vendetta against EMU or are you just trying to promote VC? Besides, whats the point of collecting virtual games? They aren't tangible, therefore aren't worth anything. Its virtual... VGM out... Super Metroid, the most perfect game ever created! Period!
Naner Posts: 6458 Joined: 05.23.07 3:29pm Location: Brazil http://steamcommunity.com/id/RenanGreca/ Website https://twitter.com/darthnaner	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by Naner » 11.25.11 10:10am Any real Metroid collector would try to get every game in all forms they can, even virtual. And it's a little bit of both. I'm no big fan of emulation, and I do think Virtual Console is a great idea and should be supported. I'm just teasing you, by the way. Tianna wrote:Naner, you rock. My Facebook Shinesparkers
CapCom Posts: 2424 Joined: 05.04.07 12:08pm Location: Section-Z Website https://twitter.com/darthnaner	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by CapCom » 11.25.11 11:21am Naner wrote:I'm no big fan of emulation... That's kind of ironic, because the Virtual Console IS emulation! Anyway, who's emulation is better is kind of redundant - one's official, the other's not. The unofficial emulation will also have more bells and whistles than the official because Nintendo is specifying how you will play their games. That's all there is, and it's really off-topic. More on-topic would be how it plays on 3DS The sleep of Reason produces monsters. "Until next time..." Captain Commando
Opium Posts: 646 Joined: 01.10.10 9:46pm Location: Littleton, CO USA	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by Opium » 11.25.11 3:51pm I was going to get it just to give a donation to say that metroid was still popular, but then I saw it wasn't even in color. Even my old cartridge can be played in color, so I'm not sure why they insist on putting it out in the greenish-peeish background with only black and grey colors. I haven't played it that way since it was new, and I really have no desire to play it that way again.
CapCom Posts: 2424 Joined: 05.04.07 12:08pm Location: Section-Z Website https://twitter.com/darthnaner	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by CapCom » 11.27.11 1:33am Even my old cartridge can be played in color, so I'm not sure why they insist on putting it out in the greenish-peeish background with only black and grey colors. Yeah, so I got a copy. It's in black and white and MUCH cleaner than an original GB or Pocket can produce. Actually, it's FAR cleaner than even the SP. You can't get the game to display this good in black and white unless maybe on the GB Player or emulator (and even then, the 3DS screen is really good). But yeah, lack of color functionality is a big minus for GB emulation. They could have very easily implemented it as an option. I think they made the VC just like 'This is how the GB was meant to be.' It would just be like Nitnendo to charge for color functionality... The audio I think is the biggest jump - it's in stereo the GB output in that actually, but the console has a mono speaker so you could only hear it with headphones. You can really tell where the sound channels were blocked out due to SFX overload (like during the earthquakes). The analog stick is ok to control for the most part, but it is simply not accurate enough when you are using Spider Ball (which was a pain to use in the original). Basically, if you roll into a corner and Spider Ball, you have to be VERY precise with the analog stick to get rolling anywhere. It also does feel a bit unnatural if you've just played with the D-pad. D-pad though is not balanced with the analog stick, so it's more tiring on the thumb. Actually, the ABXY buttons are a little small and hard, so that will wear your hands out, too! Lastly, and worst, the placement of the Start button as JUST Start is a pain - it's too far away from your right thumb to be of any use, and you kind of need it to save. Breaks concentration to use that function, so that's a minus. Thankfully, Select was set to Y, but I don't see why they couldn't have let you change the button mapping or made X Start... Emulation is pretty much 100%, though I have to verify the audio via line-in recordings and compare it with my other recording tests (as well as emulation). It's got a save state functionality - just one save, can load as many times as needed though, so it's great for saving before bosses or a hard part. Nintendo at least knows how gaming has changed! Oh yeah, the game is $3.99 plus 16 cents tax. And you can't pay JUST $4.15, like all the other services (except Steam!) you have to buy credits in amounts of $5, $10, $20, or $50. Having 85 cents floating around in Nintendo's bank doesn't make me very happy. At least I am still interested in X-Scape. The sleep of Reason produces monsters. "Until next time..." Captain Commando
Zadra Posts: 136 Joined: 02.26.11 5:16pm Location: Brooklyn, NY Website	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by Zadra » 11.27.11 3:44am I bought it as soon as it was put up, in the midst of my turkey cooking. I can play it on my gameboy if I really want to, but its a lot more convenient to have it on my DS. Metroid 2 is probably one of my favorites, and I've ONLY PLAYED IT ONCE... which is silly considering I've replayed a lot of other Metroid games. I really wanted to replay this game, and I think that few dollars was totally worth it.
garbin Posts: 79 Joined: 08.28.10 3:50am Location: UK	Re: Metroid II for 3DS Virtual Console by garbin » 11.27.11 4:59am CapCom wrote:Oh yeah, the game is $3.99 plus 16 cents tax. And you can't pay JUST $4.15, like all the other services (except Steam!) you have to buy credits in amounts of $5, $10, $20, or $50. Having 85 cents floating around in Nintendo's bank doesn't make me very happy. At least I am still interested in X-Scape. Last of the big spenders!? Just be happy in the knowledge that the interest that Nintendo is making on your 85 cents is probably going to be funding the development of the next Metroid game Good review by the way. "Wargle!"

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