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Postby Venomaniac » 08.09.08 11:11pm

I always imagined when Samus got an energy tank or a missle expansion she would insert it into her arm cannon
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Postby AMetroidGuy » 08.10.08 8:06am

syluxhunter01 wrote:2: That can explain the three-bombs-then-reload thing: the power suit has three bombs ready and must recharge after those three are used.
That’s only the case in the Prime series and Fusion, though, and in both cases it’s extremely lame.
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Postby Infinity's End » 10.25.08 11:39am

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sharonlover wrote:The way I would see it in Fusion with this explanation is that while she may have had the will to wear the suit, it still connects with her on a biological level. Being that her body interacts with the suit through her mind (either neurologically or otherwise) she still held that connection with it though unconscious.

The GFP may not have been able to remove the bioligical parts due to that connection with her mind without damaging her. Though they elude to the fact that it's physically attached, she would still need the 'mind' connection with it and that switch may not have been flipped when she went unconcious either as a defense or ect.

That's my thought on it anyway :P

I have to agree. The suit is connected to her nervous system and thus her brain, and it's entirely possible she can keep it powered up unconsciously. Alternately, by the time of Fusion, the suit had become such a part of her that she no longer needed to maintain concentration to keep it. However, this doesn't explain Prime 3.

Still, what kind of super-advanced race with a history of great technological advancements in warfare makes suits that fall off when you're knocked unconscious? I mean, the suit should be there especially when you're most vulnerable.


I'm bringing this topic back due to a convo I had with Capcom. For the folks who were discussing on page 2: NO, the Power Suit is not "uncomfortable" to wear in any form or fashion. Not even the slightest little bit.

First off, I'm sure a lot of you have this image ingrained in your minds. While this is a neat image, and it's one of the first "official" (but not true) drawings of an x-ray view of Samus in her suit, it is completely wrong. Check out the upper half of her upper arm. There's absolutely NO way it would be like that. She would have next to no mobility in her arms at all if they were covered up and half way into her torso-part of the suit. Yeah, if this was really the case in how it worked? Sure I could see how it would be uncomfortable, but to think that way is just plain idiotic.

It's like this, people: the Power suit is an EXTENSION of Samus's body. It is turned on by will, by its owner. There is no "padding" inside to make her "comfortable." It is like having an extra, tough, armored piece of skin that lays over top of your own skin (like an exoskeleton). It moves, when she moves. It is not rigid like a mecha and she does not feel "heavy" while wearing it. She is not hindered in any possible way by this suit. She is not Master Chief. This technology DOESN'T EXIST. It's not a piece of crap, uninvented US-military crap-ass armor suit that weighs like 10 tons and only helps soldiers pick up tanks. To actually know of how the "insides" of the Power suit works is probably not fathomable by you or I. All we can do is guess.
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Postby Outlaw » 10.25.08 11:55am

It's like this, people: the Power suit is an EXTENSION of Samus's body. It is turned on by will, by its owner. There is no "padding" inside to make her "comfortable." It is like having an extra, tough, armored piece of skin that lays over top of your own skin (like an exoskeleton). It moves, when she moves. It is not rigid like a mecha and she does not feel "heavy" while wearing it. She is not hindered in any possible way by this suit. She is not Master Chief. This technology DOESN'T EXIST. It's not a piece of crap, uninvented US-military crap-ass armor suit that weighs like 10 tons and only helps soldiers pick up tanks. To actually know of how the "insides" of the Power suit works is probably not fathomable by you or I. All we can do is guess.



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Re: The way the Power Suit works.

Postby CapCom » 10.25.08 11:59am

I'm going to add to this the famous quote that 'any technology far enough advanced from our own is indistinguishable from magic.' Chozo technology is just such a magic. We may hate Sakimoto's interpretation that the suit is part of her DNA and she can go into zen-state to make it work b/c it sounds like Power Rangers and mystical mumbo jumbo. Maybe we'd rather it was just a machine so we could take it apart and piece it back together, but it works and it works damn well. Likewise, a horseless carriage would look like the work of the devil to someone in the 14th Century and the electric light would be a witch's black magic - and you don't even want to know what they'd think of the Internet. That mystical mumbo jumbo is just the whirring of futuristic alien technology...
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Infinity's End wrote:It's like this, people: the Power suit is an EXTENSION of Samus's body. It is turned on by will, by its owner. There is no "padding" inside to make her "comfortable." It is like having an extra, tough, armored piece of skin that lays over top of your own skin (like an exoskeleton). It moves, when she moves. It is not rigid like a mecha and she does not feel "heavy" while wearing it. She is not hindered in any possible way by this suit. She is not Master Chief. This technology DOESN'T EXIST. It's not a piece of crap, uninvented US-military crap-ass armor suit that weighs like 10 tons and only helps soldiers pick up tanks. To actually know of how the "insides" of the Power suit works is probably not fathomable by you or I. All we can do is guess.


Turned on at will? I'm not sure about that. While Samus has been shown making her helmet materialize and disappear (probably being absorbed into the rest of the armor), she always seems to need her ship (or some other external machinery) to take the suit off entirely. It isn't literally part of her body.

That said, I'm sure it operates AS IF it were part of her body. As you said, no weight, no encumbrance, just pure awesome. I also agree on the padding issue; if the armor attaches itself to her skin like an extra epithelial layer, its doubtful any padding is needed (at least, not any moreso than an insect needs padding to survive in its carapace; I'm not sure if they have some sort of biological padding or not).

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Postby Infinity's End » 10.25.08 12:11pm

Sylux wrote:Turned on at will? I'm not sure about that. While Samus has been shown making her helmet materialize and disappear (probably being absorbed into the rest of the armor), she always seems to need her ship (or some other external machinery) to take the suit off entirely. It isn't literally part of her body.

That said, I'm sure it operates AS IF it were part of her body. As you said, no weight, no encumbrance, just pure awesome. I also agree on the padding issue; if the armor attaches itself to her skin like an extra epithelial layer, its doubtful any padding is needed (at least, not any moreso than an insect needs padding to survive in its carapace; I'm not sure if they have some sort of biological padding or not).


Yeah, guess you didn't catch my first post where I pointed out all those times where it "turns on at will" in the manga... :oops:
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Postby Sylux » 10.25.08 12:17pm

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Sylux wrote:Turned on at will? I'm not sure about that. While Samus has been shown making her helmet materialize and disappear (probably being absorbed into the rest of the armor), she always seems to need her ship (or some other external machinery) to take the suit off entirely. It isn't literally part of her body.

That said, I'm sure it operates AS IF it were part of her body. As you said, no weight, no encumbrance, just pure awesome. I also agree on the padding issue; if the armor attaches itself to her skin like an extra epithelial layer, its doubtful any padding is needed (at least, not any moreso than an insect needs padding to survive in its carapace; I'm not sure if they have some sort of biological padding or not).


Yeah, guess you didn't catch my first post where I pointed out all those times where it "turns on at will" in the manga... :oops:


And yet, in MP3, the shipboard computer says "deploying varia suit" in the opening cutscene when it puts Samus' suit on. If manga and game canon contradict each other, I will side with the latter. In the games, Samus always needs her ship to take the suit on and off.

Now, if this thread is about discussing how Samus' suit works in the manga exclusively, then sure, whatever you say.

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Postby Infinity's End » 10.25.08 12:37pm

A-HA! But maybe that's just for the Varia suit, eh? Maybe the Varia (or higher) is not something Samus has any will-control over but her Power suit is... which could be why she cannot turn on her Varia unless she is in a ship of some kind.

Gah, I can't wait to readthese pages in English soon... I'm sure it could clear up a lot of issues...
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Postby Sylux » 10.25.08 12:44pm

Infinity's End wrote:A-HA! But maybe that's just for the Varia suit, eh? Maybe the Varia (or higher) is not something Samus has any will-control over but her Power suit is... which could be why she cannot turn on her Varia unless she is in a ship of some kind.


Kinda sorta. She was wearing the Zero Suit before the computer put her armor on, not the unmodded Power. It also stands to wonder why the power suit, power beam, morph ball, missiles and other basic equipment would be self activated, while the varia module wouldn't. Sure, its possible; its just kind of weak.

As you yourself said on another thread, the manga isn't the be all and end all of metroid canon. If one of the games seem to have a better explanation of something than the manga does, I'd go with that.

It would be great if each game, comic, and other source didn't constantly contradict the others and force fans to pick and choose, but this is Nintendo.

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Re: The way the Power Suit works.

Postby Infinity's End » 10.25.08 12:56pm

Sylux wrote:
Infinity's End wrote:A-HA! But maybe that's just for the Varia suit, eh? Maybe the Varia (or higher) is not something Samus has any will-control over but her Power suit is... which could be why she cannot turn on her Varia unless she is in a ship of some kind.


Kinda sorta. She was wearing the Zero Suit before the computer put her armor on, not the unmodded Power. It also stands to wonder why the power suit, power beam, morph ball, missiles and other basic equipment would be self activated, while the varia module wouldn't. Sure, its possible; its just kind of weak.

As you yourself said on another thread, the manga isn't the be all and end all of metroid canon. If one of the games seem to have a better explanation of something than the manga does, I'd go with that.

It would be great if each game, comic, and other source didn't constantly contradict the others and force fans to pick and choose, but this is Nintendo.


Well i've learned since then that someone at Nintendo (the series' director, who helped write the damn thing) DID say manga is canon, and I've learned to accept the error of my ways. Since you and I have two different ways of explaining the same thing and there are some obvious contradictions, I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of it.
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Postby Sylux » 10.25.08 1:00pm

Infinity's End wrote:Well i've learned since then that someone at Nintendo (the series' director, who helped write the damn thing) DID say manga is canon, and I've learned to accept the error of my ways. Since you and I have two different ways of explaining the same thing and there are some obvious contradictions, I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of it.


Haha, like I said:

Me, one post ago wrote:It would be great if each game, comic, and other source didn't constantly contradict the others and force fans to pick and choose, but this is Nintendo.

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Re: The way the Power Suit works.

Postby Will Keaton » 10.25.08 1:04pm

Yeah, I don't especially care for the suit going all power rangers style, flashy lights and materializing out of no-where. Unless Samus is at a save station. Then it's okay.
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Re: The way the Power Suit works.

Postby sockmonkey » 11.03.08 5:55pm

I can accept the idea of it materializing out of nowhere if it's coming from a pocket dimension. (aka hammerspace) That's supposedly where her body goes when she's in morph ball mode and explains how she can hold 250 missles each a foot long.

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Re: The way the Power Suit works.

Postby mental » 11.03.08 7:11pm

sockmonkey wrote:I can accept the idea of it materializing out of nowhere if it's coming from a pocket dimension. (aka hammerspace) That's supposedly where her body goes when she's in morph ball mode and explains how she can hold 250 missles each a foot long.

I have a fic in progress based on that premise, actually.
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