I don't like SB samus.

[EGAD1]

I like samus but I can't get the hang of playing her in SB. I also think her down B is completly useless, it should be the boost ball or a power bomb in my opinion.

[Emperor Ing]

Um...
Your complaining is pointless?

I don't really know what else to say, or even which game you are referring to.

[Outlaw]

He probably means, the original Smash Bros.

[Emperor Ing]

Pretty hard for there to be a boost ball since it didn't exist until long after Super Smash Bros.

[Naner]

Samus' down B is great in the original Smash Bros.! It's the best way of returning to the stage if you flew off too far. It's not that good in Melee or Brawl.

[Emperor Ing]

Uh, no, it's not.


The original Smash Bros. attack did not do ANYTHING for getting back to the ledge.

That was only implemented in later games.

[EGAD1]

I mean all the SB games, probably should have said that in the first post I guess.

[Naner]

Uh, no, it's not.


The original Smash Bros. attack did not do ANYTHING for getting back to the ledge.

That was only implemented in later games.

Uh, yes, it is.

It didn't have bomb jumping, but it considerably reduces your falling speed, so holding the stick diagonally down and left or right and pressing B could get you close enough for your double-jump and Screw Attack save you (in many cases, you don't even need an extra jump).

[ph00tbag]

Samus' down B is great in the original Smash Bros.! It's the best way of returning to the stage if you flew off too far. It's not that good in Melee or Brawl.

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You cannot launch off an exploding bomb in SSB64, PLUS using bomb in mid-air steals your second jump. In both Melee and Brawl, You not only get a larger height boost off of laying a bomb, then laying a second to jump off of the first, but you keep your second jump. Melee and Brawl's bombs are better in most ways than SSB64's.

In all three games, the intended purpose of the bomb is to have you lay one between you and your opponent to force them into the air, so you can spam more anti-air moves. But in the later games, it has more uses.

Personally, I say they were the best in Melee, because you could do this.

[EGAD1]

Also, why does she feel like she has a anti-gravity system. She like floats back down to the stage when you jump.

[Shinespark]

Also, why does she feel like she has a anti-gravity system. She like floats back down to the stage when you jump.

That's one of her biggest weaknesses in all 3 games, and it's kinda weird how Power suit samus is more floaty than zero suit samus . But I guess her weight compensate slightly for that. Oh as for the bomb thing, I think Brawl's version is the worst since the original SB version worked better as a defensive move against attacks from below while the Melee version worked wonders as a recovery tool. Brawl's version was lacking in both respects.

[Doc Scratch]

Although Samus wasn't the best character in SSB or Brawl, in Melee she was a high tier on par with characters such as Captain Falcon (I.E. Very good, but not god). Her missiles were some of the best projectiles in the game, and her bombs and grapple recovery pretty much made it impossible to kill a good Samus by knocking her to the side (Unless you're playing Falco or Fox... Shine and meteor dair are scary). Her aerials were also fairly good, and she lacked the floatiness that plagued her in Brawl and SSB.

Then Brawl came, and Samus got hit by the nerf bat. Hard. She's playable, but it's much more of a struggle to use her.

...

But yeah, the bombs are not bad. Not bad at all.

[mehe]

She's a lot better without her suit ironically. Faster, stronger, more agile, more useful attacks, better combos, etc. WAAAAY better running animation.

[Doc Scratch]

She's a lot better without her suit ironically. Faster, stronger, more agile, more useful attacks, better combos, etc. WAAAAY better running animation.

Melee Samus>Brawl Zamus>SSB Samus>Brawl Samus, really.

I just don't like how limited Samus is, and how a lot of her parts transitioned. For example, why is it that her charge beam is best at close range? At least allow her to spam uncharged shots! And her screw attack barely has anything to do with the one from the games, other than the animation.

Oh yeah, and why the hell can't powersuit Samus crawl again? It's the morph ball's main function, remember?!

[mehe]

Yeah I think when crouching she should go morphball and be able to roll around at faster speed.
Really there's so much potential.